Genesis Technology post Destiny?

[shanejayell]

While I believe the Genesis Wave novels revealed that the Genesis technology was burried by Star Fleet after the destruction of the Genesis Planet, would the Federation try to revive it to fix Borg ravaged worlds?

Is this being addressed anywhere?

 

[Yassim]

I always wondered why we never saw the Genesis device used *against* the Borg. Especially during the phase when they'd let you beam over and mess stuff up for a while.

I could see a pros and cons conversation, but I'd rather have a new unstable planetoid, than a Borg invasion fleet.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I always wondered why we never saw the Genesis device used *against* the Borg. Especially during the phase when they'd let you beam over and mess stuff up for a while.

I could see a pros and cons conversation, but I'd rather have a new unstable planetoid, than a Borg invasion fleet.

Perhaps there was the fear that the Genesis technology wouldn't work against a Borg Cube. Or that the Borg could assimilate the technology and use it against Federation planets.

I do agree that some of the planets the Borg slagged in Destiny could be made reinhabitable by the Genesis technology, as The Genesis Wave revealed that the technology was actually workable.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

I imagine there would be the exact same concerns as were voiced over the use of thalaron weapons against the Borg. If the Federation outfitted its vessels with Genesis weapons- or even developed Genesis peacefully for restoration in the aftermath- war with other major powers would likely be inevitable. At the very least a cold war/arms race, as in "The Chimes at Midnight". The Tholians would go nuts over the application of Genesis technology (I like to think the Genesis Wave incident was what drove them to join Selelvia in attacking the Federation a few months later). No-one wants to risk conflict anytime soon. I imagine Genesis is off bounds.

 

[Paris]

Just curious, as I have yet to read the Genesis Wave arc, but when was it established that the Genesis technology was actually (word) tech? I thought it was created by Carol & David Marcus, albeit with the help of some unstable protomatter .

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Just curious, as I have yet to read the Genesis Wave arc, but when was it established that the Genesis technology was actually (word) tech? I thought it was created by Carol & David Marcus, albeit with the help of some unstable protomatter .

Bother. I should have put a spoiler!!! Now I'm saying rude words to myself. Sorry! I've edited my post. If you do too, we can prevent my mistake effecting any other reader. Of course, this is a spoiler from "Reap the Whirlwind", so it's been a while...

 

[JB2005]

Genesis...that's how they can fix Borg space

 

[Paris]

Genesis...that's how they can fix Borg space

This is what I was thinking. I just figured that the magic that is Genesis was going to be ignored from this point on. Possibilities...

 

[flandry84]

Genesis tech seems to be another of those plot devices used once or twice by the authors and then promptly forgotten.It's one of the things that bothers me about Trek-lit,nobody seems to think about the practical uses of the alien or otherwise technology the various crews encounter.Starfleet doesn't appear to have a weapons development programme{yes,interphasic torpedos},but just think of some of the weapons in Trek's history that could have been utilised against the Borg.I've mentioned it here before,you're fighting adaptive,regenerative drones,didn't the Federation have some of those..?Oh right,we left them to rust on that "Arsenal of freedom"planet.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Genesis...that's how they can fix Borg space

This is what I was thinking. I just figured that the magic that is Genesis was going to be ignored from this point on. Possibilities...

I certainly hope it's addressed, but between what happened in "The Genesis Wave", the political tensions it would cause with both allies and enemies, and the fact that the Tholians are mad enough as it is, I seriously doubt the Federation would dare. If it did develop a Genesis device again, the Typhon Pact would likely demand they put a stop to it, or even declare war. I imagine the Klingon Empire and Imperial Romulan State would be angry, too, and the Khitomer Accords might fall apart. As you say, I hope the possibility isn't ignored, but I'd be very, very surprised if it was seriously considered.

 

[JB2005]

^ That was something that annoyed me...those things on Tezwa that couldn't be adapted to...they could clearly mass produce them...

 

[Deranged Nasat]

^ That was something that annoyed me...those things on Tezwa that couldn't be adapted to...they could clearly mass produce them...

Oops, sorry, I think i got between you and the post you were replying too!

 

[Christopher]

Generally I'm not fond of the idea of new tech being introduced and then forgotten, but Genesis is a technology I'd be glad to ignore, because it's just too damn magical. And too damn powerful. Give your heroes power on that level and it becomes very hard to tell stories that present them with any kind of challenge.

 

[Paris]

Generally I'm not fond of the idea of new tech being introduced and then forgotten, but Genesis is a technology I'd be glad to ignore, because it's just too damn magical. And too damn powerful. Give your heroes power on that level and it becomes very hard to tell stories that present them with any kind of challenge.

EXACTLY. This is why some of the amazing weapons and technology only get used once or twice. If you can end the threat with one shot, then why write a book about it. flandry84 says this is one of things he hates about trek-lit, but I think it's a neccesary evil. Magic weapons that take out your enemies with one shot are boring when reading a novel. Simple as that.

 

[shanejayell]

I wouldn't even mind a scene where it;s discussed, it's revealed that critical data on Genesis was lost with Marcus' death and it was no longer viable. Just address it! *lol*

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Um ghuys I know the third Genesis Wave Book isn't popular but it did pretty much happen in the novel continuity, and it did point out the using Genesis would damage the space/time continum if used and considering how much they would need use it they would probably create another huge rift and seriously F@#k up reality.

 

[LutherSloan]

One problem was that the 'Genesis Wave' series of books, despite it being a large event, really haven't been followed up on much at all since. I can't recall a single mention in another book since. This despite the fact that many Federation worlds were completely transformed by the changes.

I would like at least some mention as to what happened to those worlds, or if that whole thing is being written off as happening in an alternate universe (even though it's not).

 

[LightningStorm]

I would like at least some mention as to what happened to those worlds, or if that whole thing is being written off as happening in an alternate universe (even though it's not).

It might be. If not, Nurse Ogawa has some serious explaining to do.

 

[ATimson]

One problem was that the 'Genesis Wave' series of books, despite it being a large event, really haven't been followed up on much at all since. I can't recall a single mention in another book since.

There's a reference in KRAD's "Breakdowns" SCE story that he's said wasn't meant to refer to the Genesis Wave books, but could be easily construed as such (and is by me, at any rate).

 

[Turtletrekker]

^ Also, there is a deliberate mention of the GW books by KRAD on page 73 of A Time for War, A Time for Peace, when Bacco's staff is discussing all of the various crisis that occurred during Min Zife's administration.