Spoilers General Star Trek: Picard Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Tuskin38, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. XCV330

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    I was just glad to see a TOS BoP, even if it was doomed from the start.

    I agree though. In the first three episodes the action scenes there so fleeting it almost was as if they hadn't happened at all. but i think they got the balance better in 4. You knew both fights were about to happen long before they did, so brief as they were, there was a lot of tension (imagine a movie about the Gunfight at the OK Corral where he gunfight as actually as long as it probably was (30 seconds)
     
  2. DaveyNY

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    I'm heading into my sixth decade at this point and really not the sharpest tack in the box anymore, but other than a couple of points where the foreign language dialogue has thrown me a bit, I have had no problem following the story or keeping up with the action.
    I guess I really don't understand how some can be perplexed by this show.
    :shrug:
     
  3. fireproof78

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    Would be a good movie.
     
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  4. XCV330

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    30 seconds, 30 shots fired, and smoke covering everything so you really couldn't tell what happened. :D. The 1993 movie probably got closest.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    Which is consistent with how combat actually was. Such a film would require character development, and setting the scene, building that tension.

    I know many would object to such a short fight but I personally would enjoy it if it was constructed carefully. It's the same idea as a samurai fight. Intense but very brief.
     
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  6. Tombfyre

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    I'm going to bring my thoughts over here as they are more show specific than episode specific. I'm really trying to wrap my head around accepting the state of the Romulans in Picard. It just doesn't seem like its plausible given the power of the romulan empire. One would think the moment the star was dying htey would have moved their authoritarian government to another planet out of harms way in order to plan what happens. Ultimately if the evacuation of the capitol planet failed, the government would have been moved, and the billions or even being conservative 100s of millions of romulans on other developed worlds would be fine still.

    The impression i get from the show so far is that the romulan empire has collapsed, into.... something or nothing? The throwaway lines about the supernova at the start just don't give enough information to understand whats happening. Makes whats happening with the characters of the show hard to swallow when the universe state itself isn't clear.

    Just my thoughts on this (somewhat mentioned in my previous posts in the last episode thread but I don't think they belong over there).
     
  7. Noname Given

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    My favorite is:

    ST: D is NOTHING but nostalgia <---- That's why the fans like it.... (only TOS characters in S1 - Harry Mudd appeared in 2 eps. of TOS; Sarek and Amanda - Both appeared in one episode of TOS -- and Spock occassionally name dropped. In S2 we get Pike (appeared in the TOS pilot and had a cameo in a secind episode); and Spock added. We don't really even SEE the 1701 until S2 and it doesn't look like it did in TOS - and the 1701 crew uniforms are different in major ways too...)

    STP is REAL TREK -- Trek is BACK now....(TNG Fans: God I LOVED the 1701-D in the opening sequence and Data playing cards with Picard...oh, look ANOTHER DREAM FLASHBACK with Picard and Data in the original TNG uniforms -- and WOW a hologram of the 1701-D just like it looked in TNG...hey, they name dropped Geordi and Worf, and we saw Worf in a photo - plus all the ship models Picard has in storage...oh wow, 7 of 9 >swoon<...and coming up, Riker and Troi...squeee...)
    ^^^
    Yep, STP certainly ain't trading on any TNG nostalgia here...oh, wait...:guffaw:
     
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  8. Tombfyre

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    I like this post.... its very true, these nostalgia inducing moments and cameos are clouding the rational thinking about how whats happening on screen makes sense in the context of the universe. I can't help but wonder whats even going on that put everything in this state. Its disappointing, because cameos do not make good stories, they distract from bad ones.
     
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  10. Alan Roi

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    Well, I can only assume they are trained to only be able to follow a narrative that lasts, at the most, 90 minutes. And/Or, they are perplexed why a follow up to TNG staring Patrick Stewart isn't doing everything possible to appeal to their nostalgia.
     
  11. cooleddie74

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    I would love to see something like this.
     
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  12. SolarisOne

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    The weakness of Picard so far is the Soji/Narek/Rizzo storyline. Still not bad, but it is weak compared to Picard's arc.
    Romulan Free State.
     
  13. Kzinti

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    agreed the ''borg ritual'' scene was so freaking cringe i mostly skipped it
     
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  14. thribs

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    But in Star Trek it can be multple things.
     
  15. CorporalClegg

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    Besides, I'm pretty sure they stole it from Grey's Anatomy.
     
  16. Nerys Myk

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    As I was reading various comments about the "skating" the scene came up on my rewatch. I had atually forgotten about the scene until that "double whammy".
     
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  17. thribs

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    I wonder if Tom Cruise knew of that Borg tradition in Risky Business?
     
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  18. Longinus

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    Yep, agreed.
     
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  19. Nerys Myk

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    Cruise is probably a Romulan agent
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  20. cooleddie74

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    He's definitely the automated weapon of a larger collective that seeks to control us all. But enough about Scientology.
     
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