Gene Roddenberry's "Starship"...

[Robert Comsol]

Sadly, I do not have the set of blueprints that Lincoln enterprises also sold back in the day. Damn sure wish I still had those, they were quite beautiful.

Were these just the Jefferies production sketches (Trekcore and Trekplace have one side view with the "dynertia" annotations) or something else?

Bob

 

[Mysterion]

Sadly, I do not have the set of blueprints that Lincoln enterprises also sold back in the day. Damn sure wish I still had those, they were quite beautiful.

Were these just the Jefferies production sketches (Trekcore and Trekplace have one side view with the "dynertia" annotations) or something else?

Bob

IIRC, and I probably don't (it's been thirty years since I've had them in my hands) , there were two sheets. One was Jeffries sketch art, and the other were orthographic type plans for the ship. Sorry, but I cannot recall any of the specific annotations on them. I do remember that the spherical bit protruding from the hull housed some sort of transporter-type device, though.

The next-to-last image on this page shows one of the sheets: http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Declaration-ClassEnterpriseCataloguePage.htm

 

[Christopher]

Essentially, look at "Andromeda"... That's what finally came from the original, and as I understand it unfinished, concept for Starship.

Not really. The only thing Andromeda took from Starship was the concept of a sentient ship as a main character.

Not to mention this:

Gene Roddenberry's Starship--"the adventures of a young human scientist and a brash alien commander who must work together on the Starship ECO-1, despite their personal differences, to combat intergalactic ecological disasters."
http://www.trektoday.com/news/180900_04.shtml

Note the date. The animated version of Starship which Stan Lee's company was developing in partnership with Leiji Matsumoto (Space Battleship Yamato, Captain Harlock) and John Semper (the '90s Spider-Man, Static Shock) was in the works in 2000, simultaneously with Andromeda. At the time, Majel Roddenberry was actively trying to get as many of GR's "lost" premises on TV as possible. And it's a terrible shame that Lee's company went bankrupt before Starship could be made, because, good grief, look at those names! Stan Lee and Leiji Matsumoto doing Gene Roddenberry? What an amazing combination that would've been to see.

I liked the first year of Andromeda a lot, but it went downhill quickly as the guy who actually created it - Robert E. Wolfe - lost control.

Robert Hewitt Wolfe, actually.

Andromeda was not really something substantially retrieved from Roddenberry's notes. It was a few of Roddenberry's character names and ideas grafted onto a series that someone wanted to create. I doubt that the influence actually went far beyond the names "Dylan Hunt," "Harper" and the idea of the main character sleeping through several centuries.

Also the genetically superior Nietzschean, Tyr Anasazi, was most likely inspired by the genetically superior Tyranians from Genesis II -- though the role was tailored for Keith Hamilton Cobb, whom the production company had under contract and asked Wolfe to develop a character for.

Andromeda was a mix of a number of influences. Genesis II/Planet Earth was the starting point, but Kevin Sorbo was given a choice of whether he wanted an Earth-based series or a space show, and he chose the latter, so the premise got developed in that direction. But yes, a lot of the ideas came from Wolfe himself, and from his creative staff, which included the now-prominent screenwriting duo Zack Stentz & Ashley Edward Miller.

 

[Robert Comsol]

I do remember that the spherical bit protruding from the hull housed some sort of transporter-type device, though.

The next-to-last image on this page shows one of the sheets: http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Declaration-ClassEnterpriseCataloguePage.htm

Fantastic, thanks! I get the picture. Interesting that the protruding sphere exists only on the starboard side, you can't tell from the other sketches alone.

Bob

 

[Doctor Jeffrey]

I was around when STARSHIP was being proposed and used to have the blue prints for the ship. The forward end had a 2 level cylindrical habitat with living space and labs, a smaller cylinder held scientific equipment and a sphere contained a transporter. The crew was a captain and 5 or 6 top level scientists. Part of the lessons learned from Star Trek were: we'll end up with only 6 or 7 main characters, anyway, so keep the cast small. Don't rely on 1 character to know everything (Spock), so load up with geniuses. Forget shuttle craft and just use the transporter. Use lots of aliens in the crew (the main character was a female human M.D./biologist and the captain was an alien). The normal bridge crew was replaced by a computer that foreshadowed Alexa/Deep Blue/Watson. The captain gives verbal orders and receives verbal information, so the operation of the ship can all be done by computer, leaving the rest of the cast able to focus on science. Think of THE BIG BANG THEORY cast placed on a starship with a take charge captain running things.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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