News Frakes: Get Ready For A Shift In Third Season Of Discovery

[Markonian]

If it's an era where the Federation has collapsed, or at suffered some form of major catastrophe, they may not have anything other than warp.

The Federation isn't the only technologically advanced power.
I'm not keen on seeing a "Fall of the Federation" storyline but there isn't any other story you can tell this far into the future unless you got a Federation bordering on transhumanist utopia where every problem can be solved instantly.

Poor Agent Daniels, jumping time like we take an aeroplane flight, he probably died in technologically primitive barbarism.

 

[JoseNoodles]

I probably should have mentioned 'Voyager' and 'Season 3' in the same sentence at the risk of conjuring that guy who thinks Kes is the greatest star trek character to ever star trek.

I think of season 3 as the last gasp of Classic Voyager before it was transformed into the McGuffin of Nine show, and its pretty decent. I'm sorry they didn't keep Kes. Like what was the taboo on having more than interesting character with a pretty face? I know the whole backstory with Garrett Wang, but damn: "There's too many attractive people on this show! Fire one and bring the Neelix factor up to unsafe levels!"

 

[Kpnuts]

It's pretty sad that just two short seasons later the entire concept of the show is going to course correct and change. Shame they couldn't have planned ahead or set a more solid foundation.

The show needs better writers. And better characters. A change in tone isn't going to help with either.

 

[ScottJ85]

The photo also shows Tilly, so - why not - they might be suggesting it'll be the "Michael and Tilly ****ing Cool Comedy Hour, starring The Power of Math People Dancers".

You have no idea how obsessively I'd watch that show.

 

[Lord Garth]

It's pretty sad that just two short seasons later the entire concept of the show is going to course correct and change. Shame they couldn't have planned ahead or set a more solid foundation.

The show needs better writers. And better characters. A change in tone isn't going to help with either.

Same ship.
Same characters.
Same spore drive.

I had an inkling they'd shift timeframes as early as toward the end of the first season. Before "Calypso" was even a thing. When they first overshot the mark and ended up nine months into the future, I likened it to Doc sending Einstein one minute into the future. I said if the show stayed in the TOS Era, the Spore Drive would have to be a failure, and they wouldn't want to have the series end like that.

And you probably didn't like having DSC set 10 years before TOS. You know it. So this isn't something you ought to be complaining about. Ironically, they probably did this -- in part -- to please people like you. And you're proving how much of a waste of time it is to do that.

You've basically made yourself into this forum's version of Stewey. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Here's one of my old posts, from March 28th, 2018:

I personally don't rule out Discovery eventually ending up in another time period altogether. To me, that nine-month jump was like Doc sending Einstein into the future. "One minute into the future!" But even if that's not the case, one way or another, what we have might have started as a prequel but, if it lasts, it won't stay a prequel. It will overlap with and pass the original.

One thing you have to know about me is that I have pretty good instincts. If I post something, I don't do it unless I think I can back it up; or unless I think time will bear out what I said.

Second old post of mine. This one is from March 20th, 2018:

I think something happens to Discovery. I have a hard time believing this is the last we see of the Spore Drive, yet it can't still be around in TOS and there can't be other ships with it.

I can't see the show ending with the ship being a failure. So I think the something that happens to Discovery is it ends up in a different place and a different time. Call it a gut feeling on my part. We've already seen that Spore Drive can displace the ship through time and space. Subsequent seasons will escalate what was done previously if this show is like others that have wanted to up their game.

I don't think we've discovered where Discovery wants to take us yet. Call it a leap of faith, but I think "you ain't seen nothing yet."

This is just the beginning.

Likewise, there were a lot of people who didn't believe me. But I called it early on and I stuck to my guns.

 

[Lord Garth]

By the way, I think "Calypso" is like on Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul where they do flash-forwards. Eventually DSC is going to catch up to it.

 

[Kpnuts]

One thing you have to know about me is that I have pretty good instincts.

And yet...

And you probably didn't like having DSC set 10 years before TOS. You know it. So this isn't something you ought to be complaining about. Ironically, they probably did this -- in part -- to please people like you. And you're proving how much of a waste of time it is to do that.

I never watched the Original Series so I couldn't care less when it was set. Don't make assumptions. Great instincts?

I'm not talking about story wise anyway, I'm talking tonally, the very nature of the show sounds like it's going to be very different. It just stinks of poor planning, and poor writing. Barely any of our characters are developed, we have a Klingon war we hardly saw and a cliched AI v Mankind storyline that got more idiotic with each passing week. In a sense I'm glad the show is going to course correct, the trouble is they're still stuck with SMG and her band of dull, unlikeable characters + another couple of "Woke" choices for season 3 to add to the pile. Meh.

 

[Lord Garth]

In other news...

Poor Agent Daniels, jumping time like we take an aeroplane flight, he probably died in technologically primitive barbarism.

Since I started re-watching ENT (I'm up to the beginning of the fourth season now!), I've noticed something. Daniels looks a lot like Mark Zuckerberg.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

If it's an era where the Federation has collapsed, or at suffered some form of major catastrophe, they may not have anything other than warp.

Not necessarily.

Even if the Federation has fallen, or (more likely) been reduced in size, it doesn't mean all its surviiving member worlds have been destroyed or anything like that. So they may not have lost any technology.

It all depends on what, specifically, caused the Federation to shrink/fall. If it was some kind of catastropic war, then maybe. But if it was some kind of political event which caused worlds to leave en masse, what remains of the Federation could have technology that Discovery could only dream of.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I wonder if omega weapons, or something similarly subspace technobabbly, have rendered large portions of space un-traversable at warp. The Federation may have fallen because key member worlds lost contact. Discovery's spore drive means they can jump in and investigate these worlds, separated from the galaxy at large for centuries.

 

[Go-Captain]

I wonder if omega weapons, or something similarly subspace technobabbly, have rendered large portions of space un-traversable at warp. The Federation may have fallen because key member worlds lost contact. Discovery's spore drive means they can jump in and investigate these worlds, separated from the galaxy at large for centuries.

That's the background for Star Trek: Final Frontier, a cartoon series which never got made but which has a few scripts. Space is no longer completely traversable at warp thanks to use of Omega weapons preceding the second war with the Romulans.

But even by the time of Picard they should have or be nearing completion of Quantum Slipstream, Transwarp, Coaxial Warp, or artificial wormholes. Just as long as it doesn't rely on subspace it would work.