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Fourth Season Showdown -- ENT vs TNG 103 (22) -- FINAL

Nebusj

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This, my friends, is it. After just shy of two years and following five scores of comparisons we have reached the last of the Fourth Season Showdowns -- and the last showdown of all -- between Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Enterprise. From past results we know that Enterprise has won the fourth season, with at least eleven wins and two ties, but we still have one last chance to sit down, watch two episodes, and consider which you would like better if you saw both for the same time this week. The Next Generation puts forward ``Redemption'', which here means just the first hour, up to the cliffhanger ending, and not the material of fifth season premier ``Redemption, Part II'', so please do not let its conclusion affect your vote. Enterprise meanwhile puts up a rarely-discussed and somewhat obscure episode, ``These Are The Voyages ... '', which I'm eager to see get some consideration. And when I say to pick the episode you like better I do not mean the one you think is stronger, or runs faster, or can out-swim the other. I mean the one you like better.

Picard suggests Worf seek ``Redemption' for his dishonorationizationing at the upcoming inauguration of Gowron, who pops in to warn of the imminent most serious Klingon Civil War this week. Gowron, told Worf does have evidence that Duras's father was a traitor for the Romulans, is excited but blunders the chance to buy Worf's loyalty cheap. Guinan busts up Worf on phaser tag, making the security glitches aboard ship less of a surprise, and points out Klingons know how to laugh, and how is Alexander anyway? Lursa and Betor turn up Duras's son, Pitt the Even Younger, who will challenge Gowron's claim or wet himself trying. Worf is disgusted by secret brother Kurn's plans to conquer the empire, and insists they let Gowron honestly bribe them instead. Picard reprimands Worf for using Federation records to bring critical truths to public awareness. Even Picard admits that maybe they have a responsibility to the truth, though he hasn't yet figured how to make this a Prime Directive case. Lursa and Betor ply Picard with tea, head-scritching, and plain threats, but a purring Picard will only say he'll follow Klingon law. Picard concludes that Even Younger is the Wesley Crusher of the Klingon Empire, but when Younger demands support a surprising number of the council follow the Duras gang. Worf offers Gowron support, and Worf's presence on his ship proves useful when the war breaks out and it turns out Worf is the only Klingon to have a strategy other than banging his chest and yelling ``We Are Klingons!'', even if it amounts to buying time until Kurn comes in. On the third try Gowron is finally inaugurated, and he gives Worf back his family honor through the tradition of tetanus. Picard won't commit the Federation to a side in the Civil War, and Worf resigns. Picard, telling Worf of how he admires the Klingon's basic humanity, leads Worf through an honor guard of dozens of people Worf never saw before, plus the real characters in the transporter room, and is bid success and offers goodbye back. Meanwhile in a shadowy room Romulans, Lursa, Betor, and Younger cackle over Picard's nonintervention, but they are warned to not get too confident by a shadowy figure who, stepping into the light, reveals herself to be Vosk.

``These Are The Voyages ... '' opens with Riker putting his Enterprise DVD on pause. In this scenario six years after ``Terra Prime'' with the ship and crew radically changed by adding name tags, Archer is on his way to speechify at the Federation Treaty Ceremony but gets a call from supposedly-dead Shran, who needs his daughter rescued. Riker roleplays Chef, who after a decade of service finally asks the crew what they like to eat. Riker frets about the production staff, and with Troi learns how the NX-01 crew worked the chair, the science station viewer thingy, and the dog, and Troi drops spoilers all over Riker's experience. Shran plans to use a shiny doorknob to fool the jewel thieves, recover his child, and run, and on the shuttlepod ride down T'Pol and Tucker wonder why Chef is such an ardent shipper all of a sudden. In a half-dressed studio set the shootout plan works brilliantly and they escape despite Archer nearly falling off the lighting crew's catwalk, and Shran cackles how the jewel thieves can't get out of second gear. Troi, dodging Data's latest failure to understand common phrases, tells Riker he'll figure out what he did in ``The Pegasus'' about Pressman's illegal weapons research. Riker goes back to asking Reed how hot he found Tucker, getting Sato to make up stereotype hick stories about Tucker, or having Phlox reveal secrets of the Xindi Mission. While Archer and Tucker toast the next generation in deep space nine ways a voyager might enterprise in an original series of animated events, the jewel thief aliens somehow break in and catch Archer and Tucker, demanding Shran. Tucker rejects Archer's order to not lead them to Shran, and instead leads the aliens to the explosion cables, where he kills the aliens and caramelizes his lungs. T'Pol fans herself with a valentine while Riker goes back in the sim to talk with Tucker about plans for the future. Riker knows now: if the Enterprise is ever boarded by doofus aliens like the Ferengi again he'll just kill himself. In the auditorium, Mayweather, Sato, and Reed sulk about having to sit in front of the boss, and backstage Phlox and T'Pol rally Archer's spirits for his big speech. Troi wonders if any of them notice Archer and Daniels standing along the rim, and they end program. Space: the final frontier ...

There is one other open ballot, last week's, contesting ``In Theory'' and ``Terra Prime''; while it can't affect the ranking of the fourth season it can affect how close The Next Generation comes to Enterprise. Please go and vote in that thread if you have the time and have seen both episodes recently. Thank you.

As usual at the end of these seasons I've taken the time to thank you all for writing your opinions and giving me an excuse to go back and watch episodes I hadn't seen in years -- in a few cases, even episodes I had never seen before -- and I've found this a wonderful chance to rediscover some of what I love about these Modern Trek shows. It's disappointing that there isn't a natural follow-up to this project although I have to admit I'm kind of glad to not have my self-imposed deadline for watching, summarizing, and posting episodes staring grimly at me for the next week. But I did enjoy the work, I greatly enjoyed your company, and I'm thankful to all of you for your opinions and your discussions.

I don't know how I will follow up on this project -- and I'm eager to take suggestions -- but I'm sure that sooner or later something will turn up, and I thank you for being with me through this.

Live long and prosper. Promise.
 
Redemption was a solid episode that had the kind of scope and stakes indicative of any really good season finale and brought the highly enjoyable fourth season to a satisfactory close. Granted it could never hope to capture the excellence of the previous year’s fantastic BOBW or its classic cliffhanger ending but it came close with not one but two very interesting cliffhangers.

Worf’s decision to resign his commission and join forces with the Klingons was a nice surprising turn of events and his farewell with all the officers lining the corridors was quite touching. Call me naïve or gullible but back then without the internet spoiling everything I considered the very real possibility Dorn/Worf was actually leaving the show or could possibly perish in the upcoming civil war. I especially enjoyed his final scene with Picard in his quarters.

The second and most shocking cliffhanger, centering around the mystery woman at the very end who steps finally out from the shadows, left me completely floored and reeling from what I had just seen. I was aggravated I would have to wait three months to learn who this woman who looked exactly like Yar was and what was going on and how it would affect the Klingons and balance of power.

I really couldn’t figure out what the writers were up to but I liked it a lot and I certainly didn’t see the whole alternate Yar gives birth to a half human/half Romulan angle either. I was also glad to see Denise Crosby again.

Granted Part II would not come through resolving satisfactorily a lot of the great ideas set up here in the first hour but Part I itself did a great job evoking a sense of uneasiness, uncertainty and danger with the prospect of a devastating Klingon civil war expanding outward and dragging the Federation into it along with the involvement of the extremely devious Romulans and Worf caught in the middle of it.

It definitey felt big and large scale as it expanded beyond just the adventures of the Enterprise and the lives of its crew.

I could have definitely envisioned and hoped in the fall the writers would expand it to a two-parter and make it something really memorable akin to what DS9 did with the Occupation storyline but alas it wasn’t meant to be and we ended up with a rather protracted conflict.

I also thought the moment where Picard ordered the Enterprise out of the fight between Klingons and the way Riker somberly says it has started were other great moments. Guinan is also great to see as she plays on the phaser firing range with Worf. The Duras sisters were so wonderfully over-the-top and I enjoyed visiting Kronos and watching all the machinations play out and the set design was outstanding too especially Worf getting his name back. B+.

Ah These are the Voyages-probably the most controversial Trek episode out there. People were bashing it before it even aired. Many had a problem with TNG characters being involved or the writers presenting the final mission as a holodeck program or Trip dying etc etc.

In theory Brannon actually had a pretty good idea that really could have worked with some fine tuning. I liked the idea of capping off the end of the TNG era by featuring Riker and Troi as well as the recreated sets and the magnificent ENT 1701D in CGI. It really could have also done justice to ENT. Seeing a future crew examining an important mission of these great space pioneers in a holoprogram is a nice way to tie ENT into the Trek universe historically as well as a neat dramatic way of presenting the material.

I think the problem is the focus shouldn't have been on Riker and his problem but with Riker observing/commenting on the events of the crew and their impact on future generations.

I also didn't mind Trip being killed off. I know some wouldn't be satisfied short of a happily ever after sendoff but dramatically killing him off could work if it were better executed than it was here. I also didn't like how so many events occur in a matter of days(his death, the Federation ceremony). It is just too much. It could have been remedied with Riker observing an earlier mission maybe two years before the eremony where Trip is killed then later Riker can advance the program two years further.

I also felt that the show didn't have the emotion that a finale really needs. It felt very routine. Other things I didn't care for--the generic aliens, the routine fight scenes which became a trademark of ENT.

Things I did like--Riker and Troi looked quite good, the tour of the NX by the duo, the final montage, all the Archer/TPol scenes, the Riker/Trip scene in the galley was well acted and directed. I didn't mind that the writers elected to not show Archer's speech since they couldn't have hoped to top it. I thought it was clever to make Riker "Chef" . B&B managed to sorta show us Chef but not really.

Really I think some of the episodes issues could have been remedied by having an extra hour. It is the worst Trek finale but not the worst ENT or even Trek hour. I could name several that have nothing to offer. Still it is disappointing and mediocre. I probably wasn't as offended because I've been through this before. There have been quite a few shows I enjoyed quite a bit that became mediocre in their later seasons capped off by a weak series finale. It's a D+.

I'll miss these showdowns, thanks Nebusj for keeping them going all this time and thanks to all the posters who participated in the showdowns as well. Oh and TNG was robbed this season. As much as I enjoyed ENT-4, in my opinion when you look at character work, consistency and plot TNG did a better job. And though I enjoyed the TOS elements I think sometimes they covered the shortcomings. But hey that is how I feel.
 
What a coincidence: Worf goes in search of redemption and many fans agree there is nothing Bermaga can ever do to redeem themselves for The Abomination.

Much as I like Worf, I got pretty sick of "Klingon" stories over the years, so I didn't really like Redemption.
But The Valentine is beneath contempt, so...

Redemption it is.
 
TATV gets my vote ONLY because I find it to be a bit to heavily criticized and there are some good moments in it, particuarly the last ten minutes or so.
 
I'd have to give this one to "Redemeption", "These are the Voyages" loses several points for not showing archer giving his speech to mark the inaguration of the Federation. Really if you are going to do a prequel sereies we want to see the actual signing ceromony proper, not some view from 200 metre's away where we can barely ssee the delegates.
 
"Redemption" for me.

Nothing can really compare to Worf's personal crisis and a mounting Klingon civil war.

Plus you get the pay off of Sela being revealed. While with ENT the writers never had any game plan for their shadowy protagonist Future Guy, nor was any effort made to make him relevant enough to be there at the end.

ENT S4 had one TNG guest shot that year already. I'd have prefered a cameo from a TOS character, although admittedly at this stage, any ratings stunt would've been a bit pointless. Ideally the cast should've been left with the finale all to themselves.

It was the end of era, true enough but this wasn't TNG's... that had ended over a decade before.
 
Redemption. I am not going to get into yet another B&B suck and TATV was abomination discussion. That is old.
 
While I've never had any real problem with These Are The Voyages, Redemption is the better of the two episodes.
 
"Redemption".

TaTV was an attempt by the Beebs to go out a "winner" but instead, cemented their collective infamy in Trek lore. Fitting.
 
Redemption. It's one of my favorite 2 parters. And while I likes TATV, I liked Redemption more.
 
First a point of order - It's UNFAIR to put TWO TNG episodes in the same poll. ;)

And for me Redemption wins hands down (it's one of the good 'Klingon soap opera' stories by RDM). Of course for me, a video of monkeys flinging poo would be better than the utter crapfest that was the TNG episode (filmed 12 years after the original cancellation of that series), These Are The Voyages.
 
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