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Force Awakens Deleted Scenes (SPOILERS)

Mr Light

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http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2015/12/the-deleted-scenes-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens.html

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/74063

On Tuesday Peter Sciretta posted on Slashfilm a compilation of 20 scenes he says were cut from “The Force Awakens." These were cuts, says Sciretta, that helped reduce its length by some 20 minutes.
A few highlights:
* The movie was to begin as long rumored, with Luke’s lightsaber – the one lost on Bespin along with Luke’s hand – tumbling through space toward a planet. “This shot was cut late in the process,” according to Sciretta.
* Alan Dean Foster’s novelization of “The Force Awakens” appears to confirm Leia was to appear much earlier in the movie, instructing an envoy to urge the less corrupt elements of the Galactic Senate to act quickly against Snoke’s increasingly powerful First Order.
* At some point Maz Kanata was even more Yoda-y, using The Force to bring a ceiling down on some troublesome Stormtroopers.
* The novelization suggests that Jakku junk dealer Unkar Plutt follows Rey to Maz’s castle, angry about her theft of The Millennium Falcon. Chewbacca attempts to effect Rey’s rescue through intimidation, but is only mocked by Plutt for having only one functional arm. Chewie reciprocates by ripping Plutt’s arm from his torso and tossing the dismembered limb onto a gaming table. (This may be the “arm moment” to which Daisy Ridley refers in the video above.) “They reshot some of Maz’s castle scenes,” writes Sciretta.
* Remember that shot from the trailer in which somebody hands Leia a lightsaber? That somebody is Maz, who in an earlier cut made her way to the Resistance’s base on D’Qar.
* According to Sciretta, Rey’s vision originally contained a shot of Vader dismembering Luke on Bespin. (In the finished film we see something perhaps even cooler: Rey stumbling through a Bespin corridor (!) as Luke can be heard screaming “No!”)
* A scene was apparently shot in which Kylo Ren boards the Falcon and enters its cockpit, presumably a place he well recognizes from his childhood as Ben Solo.
* The movie was originally going to have a speeder bike battle on Starkiller Base. Some eagle-eyed viewers might have noticed that when Finn and Rey arrive at the thermal oscillator, they’re standing right by a speeder that wasn’t shown in any previous shot. In an earlier scene, Finn and Rey hijacked the speeder to divert Stormtroopers from chasing Han Solo and Chewbacca while they installed the detonators. Finn drives and Rey guns, but eventually the two have to switch places to take down their pursuers.
* Dialogue from trailers and promos that did not make its way into the movie:
Maz: “Who are you?”
Rey: “I’m no one.”
Maz: “Just let it in.”
Finn: “I’ve got nothing to fight for.”
 
Yes, that would have been far too coincidental. I'm glad they left the provenance of the saber at Maz's vague line "A good question... for another time!"

Kor
 
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Disappointed. I was hoping for word of a cut scene or line where someone mentions that Chewie has a NEW bowcaster - as opposed to Han just suddenly noticing that his friend has a powerful weapon after almost 40 years (or more) of travelling together.
 
Disappointed. I was hoping for word of a cut scene or line where someone mentions that Chewie has a NEW bowcaster - as opposed to Han just suddenly noticing that his friend has a powerful weapon after almost 40 years (or more) of travelling together.

Which would totally destroy the whole joke?
 
Han was just having a bit of fun. Personally, I think they still crammed too much into this movie. They could've streamlined it a bit more, condensed some of the locations together. There are too many locations. Really, you could remove Maz & her planet entirely from the movie and not lose anything.
 
Really, you could remove Maz & her planet entirely from the movie and not lose anything.

Shit, you could remove Starkiller Base and not lose anything. Nothing about it affects the main thrust of the film – that is Rey's story and the search for Luke – and nothing that Rey does affects the outcome of the Starkiller storyline. They just happen to occupy the same movie at the same time.

At the same time, I wish they'd kept the stuff with Leia meeting the senate and Kylo boarding the Falcon. We needed some establishment of the core Republic worlds before the scene were Starkiller blew them up, and Kylo needed more development vis a vis his struggle between good and evil. Those scenes sound like they would have helped both.
 
Thanks for sharing those.

After reading them, I kind of appreciated more the mystery on how Luke/Anakin's light saber was found from Bespin.
 
Disappointed. I was hoping for word of a cut scene or line where someone mentions that Chewie has a NEW bowcaster - as opposed to Han just suddenly noticing that his friend has a powerful weapon after almost 40 years (or more) of travelling together.

Which would totally destroy the whole joke?
It wasn't a joke. There were several points in the movie where people failed to know things they should have a long time ago - like the idea that Threepio would still be screwing up and calling Leia "Princess": Alderaan was destroyed 38 years ago - by now Leia would either be "Queen" or would have dispensed with royal titles from a destroyed world altogether.
 
The Kylo/Falcon scene is the only one that intrigues me. But depends how it was shot.

But will I hope for deleted scenes on blu ray? Of course.
 
Regarding Leia still being a princess:

Who would there be left to coronate Leia as queen? Maybe there's some kind of "Alderaanian monarchy in exile," but there's no more Alderaan to rule over. Any Alderaanian refugees would probably have been taken in by other planets and become citizens there years ago, and no longer considered Alderaanian subjects.

So I would think Leia would just be stuck with "Princess" forever, but only purely as a courtesy used in certain limited circles (cultural or ceremonial, for example), without any meaningful authority. That's how it seems to work with some monarchies that fell apart in the real world, anyway.

Kor
 
In the canonical Princess Leia mini series from Marvel, shortly after Yavin, Leia and another Alderaanian rebel went on a quest to rescue Alderaan refugees. In the end, the Alderaanians wanted Leia to be their queen, but Leia felt that she couldn't abandon the Rebellion. She sent her people off to find a new home and told them to select a new queen.
 
Using similar reasoning, ROTJ didn't need a second Death Star at all.

The story was really about the characters, and nothing that Luke did on the Death Star had anything to do with the station's destruction by the Rebel fleet.

Kor
 
Star Wars suffers from a bad case of power creep. There was no need for the 2nd Death Star to be bigger than the first. Does being bigger let it blow up planets...faster? Like faster than 1/2 a second? No, it's pointless to make an even bigger version of something that just does the same thing the smaller version already did. As a matter of fact, newer versions should be streamlined and more advanced and therefor smaller.
 
And if we go by real-world technology development, the newer versions should also cost less than what was around years before. :)

Kor
 
The reasoning for a larger Death Star was so it could blow up more than one planet a day. The Second Death Star had three times the power cores of the first. The extra two were dedicated to the superlaser.

Starkiller is even more massive and can blow up multiple planets at once from across the galaxy.
 
The thing that got to me was how the First Order emerged almost unchallenged by the New Republic after the events in RotJ, and had time to build a planet-sized weapon as well as a fleet of new super star destroyers. How is it that such a monumental undertaking went unnoticed for so long? A weapon like that had to be tested to see if it would work. Nobody noticed some stars just flat out missing? And it's not like they were reusing old Imperial equipment; it was all new - TIE fighters and capital ships, both. The scope of logistics of moving resources required to build all that HAD to be noticed by someone - smugglers, spies or...anyone. How was the NR and resistance caught so unawares after 30 years?
 
We only saw one Star Destroyer from what I recall. And it is hardly super in any way. Its basically the same old Imperial Star Destroyer with the superstructure lengthened to cover most of the ship, and replacing the command tower with a shorter one.

The First Order is likely a rump state of what use to be the Galactic Empire. The New Republic doesn't see it as a real threat, probably because the First Order spent most of its time building Starkiller Base in the Unknown Region and not a super huge fleet of star destroyers. Sure they've updated their technology a bit to make everything more survivable that the Imperial's disposable Army and Navy, but it has been 30 years.

The Resistance, under Leia, was about the only allied group that was watching the First Order, and they hadn't spotted Starkiller Base yet. And she was only funded by likeminded senators and some planetary governements rather than the entire weight of the New Republic behind her. She's got a bunch of old retired Alliance personal working for her.
 
The NR and Empire signed a non-aggression pact.... some rogue elements of the Empire militarized in secret, building new ships and weapons. This became the First Order. The NR was either unaware or unwilling to enforce the treaty, so Leia went rogue and formed the Resistance to fight the First Order.
 
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