First Contact Inquiry

[USS Excelsior]

Because Lt. Hawk was gay it must have passed on that gayness to the collective, but the collective is off the hook because those Borg were destroyed.....


J/K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Really though how did the Enterprise E return to it's own time? Was the portal still open when we saw it go through, but then again it was said it was collapsing in on itself as the Enterprise was initially going through it. Or that's just a plothole they threw in and didn't think it through in the script.

 

[Captain Mike]

Because Lt. Hawk was gay it must have passed on that gayness to the collective, but the collective is off the hook because those Borg were destroyed.....


J/K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Really though how did the Enterprise E return to it's own time? Was the portal still open when we saw it go through, but then again it was said it was collapsing in on itself as the Enterprise was initially going through it. Or that's just a plothole they threw in and didn't think it through in the script.

NO! I think not since it wasn't in the original script!!...
NOT J/K!!!!!!!!!!!

Geordi was able to reconfigure the warp field to match the chronometric readings of the Borg sphere to return to the 24th century.

 

[USS Excelsior]

Then the question becomes is that something that Geordi can do at any time, to engage in time travel.

 

[Falcor5]

Then the question becomes is that something that Geordi can do at any time, to engage in time travel.

Maybe Geordi will take the Ent-E back in time for Star Trek XII!

 

[CobraCommander]

That's one of the reasons why I look down on this film. It had so much wasted potential. I don't understand why the queen would risk travelling around. Without her, there is no Borg. Picard didn't even try to disconnect the Borg crewmembers from the collective. he just killed them for the hell of it. Why only send one cube when the Borg could send thousands (for those who say that the Borg are too stupid to figure that out... it took original thinking to go back into the past to try to kill Zefram Cochrane). I feel that the TNG films did a dis-service to the TNG series.

 

[Oso Blanco]

Because Lt. Hawk was gay it must have passed on that gayness to the collective

I knew it ...

 

[Oso Blanco]

Maybe Geordi will take the Ent-E back in time for Star Trek XII!

That would be cool. But on the other hand, I wouldn't want JJ to mess up TNG as well.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I think it's pretty obvious that LaForge used what remained of the deflector dish to create a temporal vortex using chronometric particles. Let's not forget that the Enterprise had been half assimilated and Borg system were aboard including no doubt Borg information.
There are many number of possibilities as to how they got back, just use your imagination.

Deflector dish with chronometric particles?
Had the Queen upgraded the Ent with time travel capability that she was going to use again at some point?
Did Data tap into the Borg database?

pick one.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

^^^ Agreed. The movie was over, the Borg had been defeated, and history had been righted. The details of how the E-E got back to the future don't really matter or contribute to the film.

Would it have been a better feature if 10 min had been dedicated to the complex techno-babble of reconfiguring the whatever-systems for time travel? Especially at the climatic and dramatic ending of first contact with the Vulcans?



Personally, I would have liked this feature to be about the Federation (and AQ perhaps) repelling an all-out Borg invasion, involving multiple Cubes. Of couse, that would've been hard to imagine realistically during the middle of the Dominion War and likewise would've been hard to focus squarely on the TNG crew.

 

[Dac]

I always thought they used leftover or excess chronometric particles from the original time portal thing to reignite it, thus burning whatever is left over and simultaneously getting back to their own time. Remember, the trip back the portal was only open for a second or so.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Personally, I would have liked this feature to be about the Federation (and AQ perhaps) repelling an all-out Borg invasion, involving multiple Cubes. Of couse, that would've been hard to imagine realistically during the middle of the Dominion War and likewise would've been hard to focus squarely on the TNG crew.

Well it could have been interesting for the Dominion war to have been put on hold and the Alpha Quadrant Alliance and the Dominion putting aside differences for the time being to repel the Borg.
Once the Borg were repelled the Dominion pretty much resumes the war.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I think it's pretty obvious that LaForge used what remained of the deflector dish to create a temporal vortex using chronometric particles.

Oh yes, completely obvious.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I think it's pretty obvious that LaForge used what remained of the deflector dish to create a temporal vortex using chronometric particles.

Oh yes, completely obvious.

Well isn't it? that's usually the answer is it not.

How is time travel possible? chronometric particles.

How did they time travel in first contact? chronometric particles.

How were they produced? They were emitted.

What's the only device on a Federation starship capable of emitting different radiations and particles? The deflector dish.

But like I said, they could have used some kind of Borg tech left over, but the most obvious answer which we've seen used about 99% of the time in trek is they use the deflector dish or at least in this movie what's left of it.

So what's stopping them from being able to just time travel like this any time they want? well the obvious answer is that they fired the beam at the co-ordinates of where the last vortex was and were able to temporarily re-open it to get back through.

Jobs a good en, case is closed, welcome to obvious Trek.

 

[Bones2]

They scanned the conditions that allowed the Borg to travel back in time, and replicated the conditions that would best allow them to return. They probably don't know much more about time travel to do more than that, and much else would be too risky.

 

[Nebusj]

Really though how did the Enterprise E return to it's own time? Was the portal still open when we saw it go through, but then again it was said it was collapsing in on itself as the Enterprise was initially going through it. Or that's just a plothole they threw in and didn't think it through in the script.

Well, you know, going forward in time is easy. You just have to wait around. It's backwards that's the hard part.

 

[Mr. B]

Really though how did the Enterprise E return to it's own time?

That part was pretty sketchy... good thing the sensors were working.

 

[CoveTom]

It's kind of a moot point anyway, because it's not like the Enterprise crew wouldn't have known already how to travel through time. Had they not been able to duplicate whatever it was the Borg did, they could just slingshot around the sun and be back in the 24th century. Surely, Data could have performed the necessary computations as well as Spock did. So I don't think it's too big of a leap to just accept that they got back.

 

[USS Excelsior]

Jobs a good en, case is closed, welcome to obvious Trek.

That pretty much answers the question in a more than satisfactory manner.