Feel cheated by Odo?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by jlh1985, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. jlh1985

    jlh1985 Ensign Newbie

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    It may be my fangirling, but anyone else feel cheated by how Odo and Kira's storyline ended? I get what led up to that point, but why could it change where he healed the changeling, but chose to come back to her? I mean they obviously didnt need him, and he didnt need them, and he now knows his people and where he came from. So why not stay with her and just visit the link if he needs or wants to? I font know, after all that led up to them finally getting together, it just makes me mad. Especially since his people were basically genocidal tyrants, who tried to kill all his friends. Kind of like searching for your long lost father, and finding out hes an axe murderer or something. So with his morality and wanting everything the be just, it seems like choosing to live with bad people over good people eould be more out of character.
     
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  2. Bad Thoughts

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    No. The strong biological need to be part of the Link was very well explored.
     
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    Oh i know. But he survived without it. And even with the biological urge, he still fought it. After all, they had him living among humans for years. So he didnt HAVE to be there. I just think there should have been some way
     
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    Could've been part of the agreement with the main Founder
     
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    I felt cheated when Odo and Kira became more than friends! It was sad to see them part but Odo had to rejoin his people. He had to heal them and teach them a better way.
     
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  6. Prax

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    I think Odo's arc was probably seen as more important than his relationship. Odo finding and "finally rejoining the great link" was something frequently addressed throughout the series. I'm not sure it could have ended any other way
     
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    Odo going back to heal the link was part of the reason why the Female Founder surrendered. It also makes sense thematically since a major part of Odo's arc was his conflicted feelings about his people. Yeah his people were genocidal tyrants but the whole point of him going back was to stop them from continuing to be that way.
     
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    I don't remember Kira volunteering to camp out on that rock island.
     
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    Solids will always hate Changelings.
     
  10. jlh1985

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    Oh i know. It just seems like the writers had him love her so much that he was so conflicted, that he could have at least found some way to solve both problems. Its really the writers that i feel cheated by.why make him love her so much. that even when he finally found his people it was hard to go back, only to have him completely cut ties with her
     
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    And vice versa, Quark had it spot on is talk to Odo.
     
  12. Prax

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    Odo is like space Jesus to the changelings
     
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    Yeah but i mean he had his cake and could eat it too. He had the woman he loved and his people he couldnt stay with her, and go home on the weekends or something lol
     
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  14. Prax

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    Well, there is one upside to all this. He didn't leave Kira with a baby in the oven.
     
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    I always loved the Odo/Kira relationship ( I was lucky enough to get a photo with both of them at the Vegas convention one year ) I was sad when they had to part ways ; Kira lived a life of struggles and sacrifices , I felt she deserved this happiness. That being said... returning to the link was a great way to end Odo's journey , I'd like to think they keep in touch and might be able to be together sometime in the future.
     
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    I think that the point of their relationship was that he loved her more than anything, even the great link, so I also found the end to be lame.
     
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  17. Bad Thoughts

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    Because it was not ultimately a choice. The writers very clearly established that within the link, Odo lost both sense of self and sense of time. "The drop becomes the ocean:" his individuality becomes suffused within the wholeness of the community, and it was nearly impossible, outside of performing missions for the Great Link, for an individual to extricate her/himself therefrom.
     
  18. jlh1985

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    Thays exactly what i said. You have two characters whose lives' have been nothing but pain and heartache, and they FINALLY find love in each other, and instead of being at peace, they have to leave each other. They could have had ththe emotional goodbye scene in the beginning of the episode, and then later have him show back up unexpectedly to stay with her. Kind of like in the movie Aquaman. Then he can just return to the link here and there to continue his efforts
     
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    jlh1985 Ensign Newbie

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    True, but the writers did control that though. They could have had him be the unusual one, since after all, he was not a nornal changeling. His sense of identity from being around humans could have created something different, which i think was what he was planning to do once he joined. I dont think they entirely lose themselves, u think its just that everything else stops being important to them. But again, he was the different one, which was why they wanted him back so much. I just would have written it differently is all
     
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    jlh1985 Ensign Newbie

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    Yes, and i think that would have been a fantastic story line, along the lines of the former borgs becoming individual. All ththaththat he learned from being with humans could chamge the entire nature of the link to not be a mindless collective, but rather a "culture" shared by individuals. I thought that was the whole reason they sent out the baby changelings in the first place, to bring something new back. The idea of love and relationships would be an entirely new concept for them to explore