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Favourite bit of "it never happened"

JoeZhang

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What stories or version of events wiped out by canon are you particularly taken with?

Myself I like how Spock became Captain of the Surak and stepped out of Kirk's shadow (this was in the DC comics and happened between the 3rd and 4th films).
 
JoeZhang said:
What stories or version of events wiped out by canon are you particularly taken with?

Myself I like how Spock became Captain of the Surak and stepped out of Kirk's shadow (this was in the DC comics and happened between the 3rd and 4th films).

The era of DC Comics between TSFS and TVH is my favorite. The Trek universe seemed to move forward and change much better than the reset ending of the fourth film. Spock commanded his own science vessel. Kirk, still in Admiral, was in command of a ship other than the Enterprise. There were inklings of the crew possibly moving on, especially Sulu who shows concern that the events of TSFS have hindered his career ambitions for a command of his own.

I also like the contrast of Spock with a different crew and how his first officer was often in conflict with his logical command style. Those Surak stories seemed to amp up the conflict that was seen in "The Galileo Seven."

I am still fond of artist Tom Sutton's take on the Trek universe.
 
Rechecking the issues, it seems I'm wrong - it's not actually wiped from the DC comics Canon (such as it is), the final pre-TVH story ends with Spock returning to Vulcan having been mentally damaged and Kirk using the BOP that he captured in the 3rd film and uses in the fourth (having turned the excelsior over to Stiles). It doesn't quite work but it's a nice try on their part.
 
JoeZhang said:
Rechecking the issues, it seems I'm wrong - it's not actually wiped from the DC comics Canon (such as it is), the final pre-TVH story ends with Spock returning to Vulcan having been mentally damaged and Kirk using the BOP that he captured in the 3rd film and uses in the fourth (having turned the excelsior over to Stiles). It doesn't quite work but it's a nice try on their part.

Yeah... "didn't quite work" is right. The Mirror Universe issues set right after ST III clearly show that the Bird of Prey is big enough that it has to be towed behind Excelsior, but the pre-ST IV issues claim that it's somehow been stored in Excelsior's shuttlebay the whole time.
 
A nice visual gag in that series (and I guess a reference to Police Squad) is the security guard who's head you never see because he's too large...
 
Christopher said:
Yeah... "didn't quite work" is right. The Mirror Universe issues set right after ST III clearly show that the Bird of Prey is big enough that it has to be towed behind Excelsior, but the pre-ST IV issues claim that it's somehow been stored in Excelsior's shuttlebay the whole time.
Gray Morrow's Trek artwork was... idiosyncratic at best. I take certain things in that storyline leading into Star Trek IV as a bit of artistic license. The Saratoga, for instance; Morrow draws it as an Excelsior-class, when it's so clearly not in the film.
 
Well, the presence of the BoP in the shuttlebay is a plot point, not just an artistic issue. The hangar bay is specifically mentioned in the script (see issue 36, p. 7).
 
Right - it's also a plotpoint that the mirror Kirk uses the towed BOP to win their first encounter.
 
JoeZhang said:
A nice visual gag in that series (and I guess a reference to Police Squad) is the security guard who's head you never see because he's too large...

"You've got some Gagh on the side of your mouth, Al. (pause) No, the other side."

<plop!>

:guffaw:

Starfleet Police Squad - IN COLOR!
 
I miss those old DC books also. Where on the net can I find some examples of the art work from those issues to remind me of those stories 20+ years ago?
 
The whole idea of Kirk and company being given Excelsior, rather than Enterprise-A, is so rich with possibility. I miss many of those stories...especially Diane Duane's quite humorous two-parter from...I believe it was DC TOS series 1, issues 19 and 20...one of my favorite all-time Trek comic stories.
 
Honestly, I still consider the DC Comics series, complete with Kirk commanding Excelsior and Spock commanding the Surak, as part of my "personal continuity'.

There really isn't anything there that contradicts canon. The only thing said in ST4 about the passage of time since ST3 was the line about being "three months into their Vulcan exile", which works just as well being three months after "The Doomsday Bug" as it does being after ST3. Some of it is certainly a little on the contrived side, but it's not contradictory with canon as far as I can tell.
 
Adam Holmberg said:
I miss many of those stories...especially Diane Duane's quite humorous two-parter from...I believe it was DC TOS series 1, issues 19 and 20...one of my favorite all-time Trek comic stories.

"Double Blind," from issues 24-25. Those were the first Trek comics I ever bought. Still a classic.
 
Agreed. The funniest Trek since "Tribbles," and possibly even funnier. I never cared for the Sutton/Villagran art team, but those issues are a highlight of DC's entire Trek run.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Honestly, I still consider the DC Comics series, complete with Kirk commanding Excelsior and Spock commanding the Surak, as part of my "personal continuity'.

I also loved the issues that preceded TSFS, that take place right after TWOK and how we truly see what Trek would be like without Spock. There was even a bit of the tension between Kirk and Saavik that would've existed between Xon and Kirk in PII.
 
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