Excellent USA Today Review...

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Mutai Sho-Rin, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Mutai Sho-Rin

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  2. dinzy

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    I read some review from EW that said the show was atrocious. It's hard to take critics seriously these days. Many are sick of their jobs and sick of watching shows, which when watched in bulk, clearly all flow together.
     
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    The EW reviewer was pretty clearly one of those people who is unhappy that it isn't TNG. I think he even brought up The Orville.
     
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    Most of the reviews seem to be good, and, they all seem to say that the show is so much more than a nostalgia cash-in, so hopefully this will placate the "iT's nOtHiNG bUt A TnG rEUnIoN" crowd.
     
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    He did. He went on an on about how similar it is to all the crap out there. The dude needs to write about something he cares about, rather than complaining that everything is too repetitive when it is your job to watch and critique media.

    I read the review after watching the show and dismissed it. Had I read it before watching, or even seen the headline, it might have reduced my enjoyment of it. Somewhat related, Mark Hamill asked negative people to hold off on their panning of RoS until after the people who were going to see it anyways saw it. I saw the scores and stuff before I got to see the movie and I think it did make me aware of the issues when I otherwise would have been paying more attention to the details. Really negative reviews for highly anticipated new entries into franchises probably should be held back until the rabid fans get the chance to see it for themselves. These whiny manbabies need to hold off regardless of how many clicks they will lose by waiting a day.
     
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    Was the EW reviewer Darren Franich? The TV critic who watched just the first and fifth episodes of The Witcher and proceeded to give the show an F "because life’s too short for Netflix drama running times"? I'm not sure he's the model of a professional, regardless of what one thinks of the series under review.

    Anyway, I'm glad the show is generally getting positive press.
     
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    Wait, is The Witcher any good? I didn't read any reviews, just watched first two episodes and couldn't stand all the world building about characters I couldn't care less about. Does it get better after second episode? I'd love to give it another try.
     
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    Here's the link. If it's even remotely accurate,

    https://ew.com/tv-reviews/2020/01/23/star-trek-picard-review/

    then Chris Chibnall and his era of "Doctor Who"
    have been genuinely consistently bold and inventive and sagacious and innovative and not fanwanky and not relying on nostalgia or engaging in small universe syndrome by comparison.


    But the same goes for DW as it does STP: Watch for one's self and determine if one likes it; all the media site reviewers are doing is sharing their opinion and/or being paid to say something. Media reviews are often inflated in one of two directions to gain readers and who can blame them. And the patronizing ones are sometimes the ones puffing the most smoke. But I'm at the point where anything that isn't proverbial bread buttering with sugarcoated faff is going to be closer to authenticity. One needn't make parallels to other franchises either.

    Remember, TWOK is nothing like TOS in tone but carried on its spirit. So The new series need not be anything like TNG in feel, but that's the least of anything important...
     
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    I thought The Witcher was pretty entertaining, and I liked how they structured the show, which doesn't really become apparent until episodes 3/4. The show follows three major characters, but if you aren't interested in them, you might not like the show.
     
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    Yeah, I wouldn't say it was great, but I thought it was generally entertaining. It has a lot of promise, I think.
     
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    My respect for sitting through more than one episode of that show, I didn't even manage that
     
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    Well, my point was that if your job is to be a TV critic and you grade a show having only seen two out-of-order episodes--while complaining that life is too short to watch Netflix-length shows, which is literally your job--you really aren't doing much for your ethos as a credible member of your profession, regardless of the caliber of the show.
     
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    An important part of enjoying the series is realizing it's not trying to be the next Game of Thrones. It's trying to be a modern update to Hercules/Xena. It revels in its cheesiness in certain places, and assuredly doesn't take itself totally seriously.
     
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    I enjoyed it and I'm not into that kind of gaming fantasy at all.
    (though I was a bit disappointed with the ending)

    World of Warcraft bored the Hell outta me.
    (the game and the movie)
     
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    Exactly so. I saw someone praise the show as trashy fun, and while I wouldn't use those words, the sentiment is right. For what it wants to be, I enjoyed it, cheese and all.

    This is the second recent show that critics describe as slow that I personally found spellbinding. (The first was His Dark Materials.) I'm used to critics critiquing things for being too fast paced and not spending enough time talking. Are things changing? Am I getting old? What gives?
     
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    They are just trying desperately to be 'critical'.
    meh ...
     
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    Nothing's changed. If they're don't like something, they'll zig wherever what they're criticizing will zag. It happens out there. It happens in here too.
     
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