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Ever view the X-Men movies and comics as now a sexuality metaphor?

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EmmanuelZorg

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I mean back in the 60's and 70's the comics were about racism and then in the 80's to now i think they can be viewed about sexuality.

The films are the big examples! now take a openly gay Jewish director who grew up with the comics and understanding the metaphors in them. He used that stuff in the first 2 movies and a straight director like Brett Ratner for part 3 and that one dude for Wolverine X-Men Origins.

I mean all 4 movies have the examples such as running away, hiding, coming out, curing, fighting for rights, destroying one minority, and acceptance.
 
T'Baio said:
The "Jewish" part is my favourite part of the post.
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I love it. I can just picture that conversation.

Bryan - "Mom, Dad, I have something to tell you."

Mom - "You're marrying that nice receptionist?"

Bryan - "No, her brother."

Dad - "You're one of them nancyboys?"

Mom - "This is your fault, if you wouldn't have made him watch that Wizard of Oz movie, this never would have happened."

Bryan - "There's more. I'm Jewish, too."

Mom and Dad die.
 
I have to admit that I saw the parallels in the 90s during the cartoon series. While they focused on the racism aspects, I've come to realize that they go hand in hand and have from the beginning. Stan Lee even mentions this in one of the documentaries on the DVD set (I think it was X-Men 1.5 but the exact location escapes me at the moment) that he intended them to be an allegory for sexuality and discrimination.
 
Being marginalized and discriminated against is at the heart of the X-Men legend, so they can stand in for most anybody who falls into that category, whosoever they happen to be at any given time, so long as there's a physical aspect to it. So, yes, racism was the first and most obvious, but it can also be a metaphor for sexuality, for disability, for HIV/AIDS, etc. Simple, but also very flexible concept.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Well, yeah. "have you ever tried not being a mutant?" was all about that.
 
Totally a metaphor for being LGTB!

NO SHIT SHERLOCK! perhaps that was the intention of Bryan Singer who's gay, Ian Mckellen who's gay and Alan Cumming who is bisexual as they made the movies into one big metaphor.
 
Harry-Canyon said:
Totally a metaphor for being LGTB!

NO SHIT SHERLOCK! perhaps that was the intention of Bryan Singer who's gay, Ian Mckellen who's gay and Alan Cumming who is bisexual as they made the movies into one big metaphor.
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Dial it back, alright? That kind of reply doesn't see much success here. :vulcan:
 
I can remember the gay metaphor hypothesis from waaaay back, long before there was any whiff of movies. But I doubt the original intent of the X-Men (dating from the 60s) was that specific. Probably more of a reference to the Civil Rights movement and McCarthyism.
 
McCarthyism? How do you figure? Communism is an ideology, and the X-Men, as has been said, have no choice in who they are.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Being a mutant has always been a broad metaphor standing in for whatever flavor of underdog you like: black, gay, Trekkie....anyone who's different. That's one of the reasons it's been so successful, because it doesn't directly mean any of those things while indirectly meaning ALL of them.
 
Mike Farley said:
Being a mutant has always been a broad metaphor standing in for whatever flavor of underdog you like: black, gay, Trekkie....anyone who's different. That's one of the reasons it's been so successful, because it doesn't directly mean any of those things while indirectly meaning ALL of them.
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QFT.
 
the Dagman said:
Trekker4747 said:
The movies were clearly homosexuality metaphors.

"have you tried not being a mutant?"
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Not to mention putting everyone into skin tight black leather.
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LOL - it it aint broke don't fix it.

New Mutants 45 (I think or there abouts) dealt with a young boy committing suicide because he was going to be outed as a mutant and Kitty Pryde has to decide whether to out herself at his memorial. It was thinly veiled but very powerful stuff. I recommend it!
 
But what do you all think of the thought of curing individuals? i mean in Astonishing X-Men and X-Men The Last Stand, they explore that idea even in the episode of the original animated series "The Cure".

Ian Mckellen in a interview about the movie is repulsed by the thought of individuals getting cured as he stated "The thought of the idea for the cure in this movie is abhoerent to me as if someone needed to cure my sexuality or if someone could ask if a black person could take a pill to cure them of being black, it's just ridiculous".

Halle Berry also said the same in an interview in the new Blu-Ray of X-Men 3 stating "As a child i wanted to change myself so i can fit in but then when i grew older, i thought it was a silly thought".
 
Temis the Vorta said:
I can remember the gay metaphor hypothesis from waaaay back, long before there was any whiff of movies. But I doubt the original intent of the X-Men (dating from the 60s) was that specific. Probably more of a reference to the Civil Rights movement and McCarthyism.
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When you read the very early X-Men comics, you realize that the "original intent" was to tell action-adventure stories of super-heroes fighting super-villains, and nothing else. Stan Lee later claimed that he had the Civil Rights movement in mind when he was writing it, but there's no indication of that in the actual stories.
 
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