Spoilers Eugenics Wars show? (SNW/PIC spoilers)

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  1. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

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    So would anybody be up for a show set during the Eugenics Wars?
    Since apparently the second civil war lead to the eugenics wars which led to WW3. According to the Picard finale and Strange New Worlds premiere.

    I mean it would be kinda somber seeing our present day Earth just get absolutely wreck.
     
  2. FederationHistorian

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    Considering it was established in PIC that the Shenzhen Convention exists and its implied that there’s a direct link between the ratification of the Shenzhen Conventions and the end of the Eugenics Wars in the ‘90s due to how genetic manipulation was banned and seen has a huge no-no as of 2024.

    SNW tied in the second civil war - these political movements involving BLM and MAGA - to connect present day to the conflict. So clearly, the hyper politicization of today is tied into the Shenzhen Conventions being torn up by 2026 which leads to the Eugenics Wars resuming and that’s how the conflicts are connected, and fits into retconning how the ‘90s Eugenics War was WW3. Since Adam Soong had connections to private military groups and was experimenting on soldiers. Philip Green’s eco-terrorist faction must have been a part of the second civil war and resumption of the Eugenics War, since he was specifically cited in the historical database of the USS Defiant.

    DIS also shows fighting in Riverside, Indiana, not far from where Shannon O’Donnell lived. Presumably, they were fighting an invading Eastern Coalition before the bombs dropped, but who knows anymore. Maybe it was footage of the civil war turning hot by that point.

    There was the proposed Ceti Alpha show, and I figured that anything involving the Eugenics Wars would be a flashback to the ‘90s, not the 21st century.

    I figured that going back to the ‘90s Eugenics Wars and watching Kirk and Spock aid Gary Seven defeat Khan and his Augments behind the scenes would make for a good Kelvin film. But I'm not sure as a show set during today, although we still have no idea as to where Georgiou was dropped off, so the Section 31 show might actually be an Assignment Earth show.
     
  3. NewHeavensNewEarth

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    PIC and SNW definitely are making a lot of references to it, and if they're determined to explore it, I think using the Section 31 show would be a good way to go. After all, a show purely about the Eugenics Wars couldn't accurately be labeled "Star Trek" in any literal sense. I would love to see Georgiou vs. Khan. :eek:
     
  4. The Old Mixer

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    I just added which shows are being spoiled to the thread name; with that and the spoiler tag, you shouldn't have to talk in spoiler boxes in here.
     
  5. Tuskin38

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    The Picard finale implied no such thing.

    You're right about SNW though.
     
  6. Jack Wolfe

    Jack Wolfe Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    No thanks. I'm already watching it in slow motion.

    From a Trek perspective (Trekspective?), I'm fine with the Eugenics War being touched on when appropriate to the story. Watching a detailed account isn't interesting to me.
     
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  7. F. King Daniel

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    There was a show rumoured to be in development codenamed 1992, which I assumed was the Eugenics Wars. Perhaps they've shifted the era it's set
     
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  8. STEPhon IT

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    Why not? I've seen these Paramount All Access Trek serials pile on trainwrecks after trainwreck, another dystopian theme trek show would be fitting, why not have a vision of Trek which would lead up to World War III?
     
  9. Orphalesion

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    Honestly I would have no interest in an Eugenics Wars show. To me Star Trek is set in the far future and has starships and aliens. I would not be interested in a Star Trek show set in "present day".
    I mean they are not doing anything that SciFi, including Star Trek hasn't done for decades. In the TOS and TNG the world was destroyed by nuclear fire unleashed by powerful nations because that was the biggest threat to civilization back then. Right now civil unrest is showing is a big threat in the minds of many people, so they put that in their current shows.
     
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  10. XCV330

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    I wouldn't watch a eugenics war show. The present is depressing enough.
     
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  11. DesolationGod

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    no, its not really star trek then, just a show about war on earth. Now if they would do a series on the mirror universe.. id watch that
     
  12. NewHeavensNewEarth

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    As we discuss current events and Trek intersecting, it's funny that in today's news, Sinn Féin did great at the Northern Ireland elections! Maybe Data will still be proven right about Irish reunification! ;) (minus the violence)
     
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  13. Richard S. Ta

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    Indeed.

    Nope, fuck that. I wish they’d bury the MU for good. It’s never been as good as it was in Mirror Mirror and has had diminishing returns with each reappearance.

    As you said about a Eugenics War just being a War on Earth show, an MU show would just be ‘bad people in space being bad’. That’s not what I’m into Star Trek for.
     
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  14. NCC-73515

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    perhaps a while after the current war.........
     
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  15. Orphalesion

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    Yeah no Mirror Universe either. And I'm not excited for a Section 31 show either, especially not with Mirror Georgiou in the lead (no disrespect to Michelle Yeoh, I'd watch the hell out of a show where she plays Prime!Georgiou, but I can't stand the cackling cartoon villain that's Mirror Georgiou.)
     
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  16. F. King Daniel

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    Eh, I never cared for Khan. Not really interested in seeing him and his little augment army (and that flaky Federation historian) sitting around on some god-forsaken planet.
     
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  19. JoaquinSlowly

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    ‪‪I think you could be onto something. When looking in detail at the public records of copyrights currently active and in development something about Ceti Alpha V stood out.

    Star Trek: Section 31
    , and Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’s filings read exactly the same, and Star Trek: Revolution’s filing is all but identical. Star Trek: Ceti Alpha V’s filing includes the same first portion, but CAV’s is the only one that includes a final segment I’ve highlighted in bold:

    None of the others mention podcasts by name.
     
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  20. Tenacity

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    But does Northern Ireland merge into the Republic of Ireland, or will the Republic of Ireland merge into Northern Ireland?