Episode of the Week : The Doomsday Machine

[Marsden]

KirkFan, Marsden is trying to point out you've constructed a classic "grandfather paradox". You travel backwards in time to "correct" or "improve" a condition, but in doing so, you negate the very reason for traveling back in time.

Sincerely,

Bill

I was mostly just joking, I swear I heard Billy Crystal when I typed that about the proofs but I can't remember from what. I thought it might have been something Miracle Max said, but I'm not sure. Maybe it was Zoidberg.

Actually that applies to anything whatsoever you do back in time. So in essence, what you're saying is that time travel is impossible. Let me explain: No matter what you do in the past, it will become part of your history, making it useless to go back to do the thing in the first place, but if you don't go back then the need to travel back in time will exist. No matter what you do (travel back or not) you'll end up with a paradox. The only solution is that time travel is impossible.

Unless you have a microwave oven and jiffy pop, but you run the risk of becoming your own grandpa.

 

[kirkfan]

KirkFan, Marsden is trying to point out you've constructed a classic "grandfather paradox". You travel backwards in time to "correct" or "improve" a condition, but in doing so, you negate the very reason for traveling back in time.

Sincerely,

Bill

I was mostly just joking, I swear I heard Billy Crystal when I typed that about the proofs but I can't remember from what. I thought it might have been something Miracle Max said, but I'm not sure. Maybe it was Zoidberg.

Actually that applies to anything whatsoever you do back in time. So in essence, what you're saying is that time travel is impossible. Let me explain: No matter what you do in the past, it will become part of your history, making it useless to go back to do the thing in the first place, but if you don't go back then the need to travel back in time will exist. No matter what you do (travel back or not) you'll end up with a paradox. The only solution is that time travel is impossible.

Unless you have a microwave oven and jiffy pop, but you run the risk of becoming your own grandpa.

I think Julian Bashir faced that Paradox.

 

[Forbin]

Phillip J. Frye lived it!

 

[kirkfan]

Bashir met what he thought was his great grandmother in an elevator.

 

[Ithekro]

He was just coming up with an excuse to justify coming back to sleep with her.

 

[kirkfan]

Creepy. I mean: "I slept with her because I thought we were related." No wonder he was retarded before the genetic enhancing thing.

 

[Ithekro]

More of "I slept with her because it was a paradox that I had always slept with her so I could be born in 80 years," kind of thing. But it was him overthinking it so he could justify sleeping with her to O'Brian, who didn't buy it, plus they had things to do and not muddle with history was one of those things. Bashir wouldn't mind muddling with her history.

 

[kirkfan]

More of "I slept with her because it was a paradox that I had always slept with her so I could be born in 80 years," kind of thing. But it was him overthinking it so he could justify sleeping with her to O'Brian, who didn't buy it, plus they had things to do and not muddle with history was one of those things. Bashir wouldn't mind muddling with her history.

That kind of stuff could have major repercussions.

 

[Forbin]

More of "I slept with her because it was a paradox that I had always slept with her so I could be born in 80 years," kind of thing. But it was him overthinking it so he could justify sleeping with her to O'Brian, who didn't buy it, plus they had things to do and not muddle with history was one of those things. Bashir wouldn't mind muddling with her history.

That kind of stuff could have major repercussions.

What did Kira have to do with it?

 

[publiusr]

I wonder if they used the remnants of the machine for raw material afterward.

Just the thing to stake Cthulhu in the heart.

Best TV episode of all time.

 

[arch101]

Such a good hour of TV and the Remastered version fixes it's shortcomings and makes it just about perfect. In the new version, the first appearance of the machine, combined with the music, is now a spectacular moment.
This ep shows just how good a "bottle show" can be with great writing, directing and acting.
Windom should have gotten an Emmy nomination. He gives one of the best interpretations of a man suffering shock and horror that I've seen in my 46 years. You almost tear up listening to him recount what happened to his crew.

 

[kirkfan]

More of "I slept with her because it was a paradox that I had always slept with her so I could be born in 80 years," kind of thing. But it was him overthinking it so he could justify sleeping with her to O'Brian, who didn't buy it, plus they had things to do and not muddle with history was one of those things. Bashir wouldn't mind muddling with her history.

That kind of stuff could have major repercussions.

What did Kira have to do with it?

Colonel Kira? Nothing.