Spoilers Speculations On Upcoming Episodes

[Uncle Sock]

Henlo!

So, the synopsis for episode 4 on Trekmovie reads as follows:

When an existential crisis threatens to wipe out a beloved but infamous Star Trek species, a cadet is forced to confront his past and strained relationship with his family. As he pursues an unexpected method of coping, Nahla races against time to save this species from extinction.

And I wonder - who could this "beloved but infamous" Star Trek species be? I know we're gonna find out soon enough, but humor me! (And please, although this may be a lot to ask - no hints please from those who have already seen it!)

Who could it be? I'm going with the Klingons!

 

[Michael]

Have not been lucky enough to watch it yet, but pretty sure it’s the Klingons. Reviewers have said the episode focusses on Jay-Den and answers “big questions in a satisfactory way”, which I take to mean it finally tells us why we never saw any Klingons in the 32nd century on Discovery. I wonder if that will be the next fucking thing anti-Kurtzman YouTube critics lose their shit over: “They ruined the Klingons!”

 

[Mudd]

Jay-Den is Klingon. Nus Braka is half-Klingon. Lura Thok is half-Klingon.

If the answer is "Klingon," there better be a damn good explanation for how an endangered species has managed to get so busy all over the galaxy in the last few decades.

I'll guess "tribbles." There's been at least one documented (in-canon) attempt to obliterate them, and it did involve Jay-Den's people.

 

[Michael]

Jay-Den is Klingon. Nus Braka is half-Klingon. Lura Thok is half-Klingon.

If the answer is "Klingon," there better be a damn good explanation for how an endangered species has managed to get so busy all over the galaxy in the last few decades.

Wouldn’t the fact that they procreate with other species actually tie in really nicely into the species being endangered?

 

[Uncle Sock]

Have not been lucky enough to watch it yet, but pretty sure it’s the Klingons. Reviewers have said the episode focusses on Jay-Den and answers “big questions in a satisfactory way”, which I take to mean it finally tells us why we never saw any Klingons in the 32nd century on Discovery.

Those sneaky reviewers!

I was thinking it could be the Klingons because the preview pictures feature Jay-Den slightly more than the others, including a nice image of him and Nahla.

the next fucking thing anti-Kurtzman YouTube critics lose their shit over

Language!

 

[Mudd]

Wouldn’t the fact that they procreate with other species actually tie in really nicely into the species being endangered?

Not at all. Unless one is of the persuasion that this sort of thing is "diluting the bloodlines," which would be an odd position for Trek characters to take, being so prolific and genetically compatible with so many others would, rather, be indicative of remarkable evolutionary success and adaptability.

Doesn't mean Trek writers will think that through, of course. Talk about "notorious..."

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

The cure to a Klingon ailment may lie in Tribble blood infusions/DNA transplants (killing them not necessary).

 

[Michael]

Not at all. Unless one is of the persuasion that this sort of thing is "diluting the bloodlines," which would be an odd position for Trek characters to take, being so prolific and genetically compatible with so many others would, rather, be indicative of remarkable evolutionary success and adaptability.

Doesn't mean Trek writers will think that through, of course. Talk about "notorious..."

Not sure if we’re talking past each other or if I’m just having a slow moment or whatever, but what I meant is, assuming the Klingons are actually near extinction, couldn’t procreating with other species (in their mind) actually be a method to extend their numbers?

 

[tenmei]

Jay-Den is Klingon. Nus Braka is half-Klingon. Lura Thok is half-Klingon.

If the answer is "Klingon," there better be a damn good explanation for how an endangered species has managed to get so busy all over the galaxy in the last few decades.

I'll guess "tribbles." There's been at least one documented (in-canon) attempt to obliterate them, and it did involve Jay-Den's people.

This would be my thinking the Klingon Reproductive Crisis of 3189 is a reappropriated Andorian Repreductive Crisis of the Novel-verse. In this case, the Klingons survive by mating with other species - has the destructiom of Kronos made Klingon men infertile so that they need to mate with a male Jem Hadar/Tellarite?

 

[Uncle Sock]

This would be my thinking the Klingon Reproductive Crisis of 3189 is a reappropriated Andorian Repreductive Crisis of the Novel-verse. In this case, the Klingons survive by mating with other species - has the destructiom of Kronos made Klingon men infertile so that they need to mate with a male Jem Hadar/Tellarite?

Infertile Klingon men mating with male Jem'Hadar/Tellarites? Now that's what I call fanfic.

 

[Mudd]

This would be my thinking the Klingon Reproductive Crisis of 3189 is a reappropriated Andorian Repreductive Crisis of the Novel-verse. In this case, the Klingons survive by mating with other species - has the destructiom of Kronos made Klingon men infertile so that they need to mate with a male Jem Hadar/Tellarite?

Have they stated, for the biracial characters in SFA, which parent was Klingon?

 

[Mudd]

Not sure if we’re talking past each other or if I’m just having a slow moment or whatever, but what I meant is, assuming the Klingons are actually near extinction, couldn’t procreating with other species (in their mind) actually be a method to extend their numbers?

Oh, sure. But I don't think that in such a case they'd be considered in danger of extinction at all - they're successfully increasing their numbers, I'd say, if they're this overrepresented onscreen.

Again, this is not necessarily Star Trek TV logic. It's just how that situation looks to me.

Do we have much evidence that Klingons are great believers in the importance of racial purity? I thought they shed their more overt Nazi mannerisms after TOS.

 

[Turtletrekker]

If the existence of the Klingon hybrids comes down to some sort of existential issue for the Klingons, if it were the only way they were able to survive as a species, it would make an interesting bookend to the attitudes of the Klingon people at the beginning of Discovery and T'Kuvma's "Remain Klingon" movement.

 

[ToddCam]

I'm sure there are different levels of Klingon blood purity interest, just like there are with various humans' ideas of racial purity now.

 

[tenmei]

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[tenmei]

Is Ake getting herself a Klingon beau?

 

[Uncle Sock]

Could still be the Betazoids after this teaser. One hiccup by the president's daughter and her inhibitor malfunctioning at the same time...

I really need to remember her name.

 

[Mudd]

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Guess that settles the debate.

 

[ToddCam]

If Jay-Den is gay, and he comes from a family who refuses to mix with aliens, it could be he is under a great deal of pressure to marry and have biological children with a woman. That's a kind of way to analogize homophobia with an actual LGBTQ+ person in a way that fits into the world.

 

[CT_Phipps]

Wouldn’t the fact that they procreate with other species actually tie in really nicely into the species being endangered?

I mean that would lead to some VERY un-Trekkian ideas about what constitutes extinction.