Spoilers Ep10 ship

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Prodigy' started by F. King Daniel, Feb 4, 2022.

  1. Deks

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    Actually, more advanced methods of propulsion and power generation technologies were introduced all the way back in VOY (such as: QS v2, Coaxial Warp, and Transwarp - some even in TNG)... which happened BEFORE Prodigy.

    So, the writers had plenty of material to work with already... I'm just guessing they decided to completely ignore it.
     
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  2. Dukhat

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    And let’s not forget the Barclay drive!

    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Neural_scan_interface
     
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    That too.
    Though, if you recall from VOY 'Endgame', Admiral Janeway used a synaptic/neural interface to communicate with the Borg Queen.
    So, we know that in that timeline at least, SF developed its own neural interface technology... and I'm guessing that this could have been used to aid them in recreating the Barclay Drive too (data on which the ENT-D sensors should have recorded).

    There were also Kriega Waves if I'm not mistaken as a power source being developed by the Federation (the data itself survived his death)... and VOY encountered several advanced power core technologies on which they were able to get sensor scans and helped repair them (all of which would give SF ideas on how to build their own in the next 25 to 50 years).

    For a civilization that doesn't know one thing from the other or lacks scientific expertise, sure it may take them 100 years to get any useful information, but once the idea has been put into their heads that its possible, you can bet they'd be stubbornly pursuing research into it.
    And UFP has highly advanced technology already at its disposal.
    So, even if they lack sensor data, they'd be able to come up with a prototype in far less time than a civilization of say our technological level.
     
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  4. Dukhat

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    The issue was that they chose the 32nd century to leap to because of some incessant need to link the show to ‘Calypso.’ The scenario would have been far more believable had they jumped to the 26th century or so rather than the 32nd.
     
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    As far as thinking goes I do like this. The biggest thing when I watch supposed "updates in tech" with Trek is that they don't last that long. They fall back on the tried and true.
     
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  6. Ray Hardgrit

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    I thought the reason it was set in the 32nd century was that they wanted to jump beyond any established canon, which meant setting it after the Temporal Cold War (plus an extra 100 years or so to include the Burn).
     
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    That’s correct. Michelle Paradise said a while back, Calypso takes “far beyond” the 32nd Century setting of Discovery, their movement there doesn’t link it to Calypso.

    Moving to the 32nd Century was about going past any time the established setting had gone to already.

    They have linked the show more directly to Calypso with Zora’s development, and having the word V’Draysh used early in Season 3, absolutely. But Calypso has also always been linked to the show. I mean, it takes place on the Discovery.
     
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    No, that was their stated reason after the fact. The original idea was to link it to ‘Calypso’ and the time period that Short Trek was set in. That’s why they used the term ‘V’Draysh’ early on but then abandoned it later once the 32nd century Federation was established, which was shown to be a completely different animal than how the the V’Draysh were described in the Short Trek.
     
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    I'd rather they jumped to the mid/late 25th century instead. What was shown was closer to that time period rather than the 26th century... but generally, yes, I agree with what you said.

    Though, the initial reason for pushing the show so far into the future (if I recall correctly) was to give Disco free reign and free itself from the burden of the past Trek series (aka 'potential canon violations').
    Problem with that is you can't really just ignore what happened in the 24th century if the show will be placed in the same universe but much further in the future.

    Perhaps if they pushed Discovery into a completely different alternate universe (not the Kelvin universe) where events hadn't progressed very far due to difference in passage of time... so an equivalent of Prime universe 23rd century, but one where the UFP developed differently (so technically, same level of technology as the universe/era from which it came from, it just all happened much later - and of course, the UFP would have been different - no Michael Burnham or Kirk, or similar people - its a different setting after all), that would have completely freed Disco from the burden of continuity... that way, they could easily do what they want without having to worry about what came before.
     
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    They could've called it the Burnham Universe.
     
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    The BU. I like that.
     
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    Turns out, I was right:
     
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    The fake USS Dauntless was also a lean ship - or at least, that's what Torres mentioned. Its possible that SF may have incorporated some more stuff for crew comfort in its own design, but would otherwise recreate the vessel as much as possible to maintain compatibility with QS drive.
     
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