Enterprise will appear in next Trek film; ILM doing effects

[Cary L. Brown]

Re: Enterprise will appear in next Trek film; ILM doing effe

Woulfe said:
Actually there are four versions

1. The Cage Enterprise ( Larger bridge dome, spires on the caps, no spinning lights, grills on the ends )

2. Where No Man Has Gone Enterprise ( Smaller bridge dome, no spires on the caps, spinning lights, no grills on the ends )

3. The Man Trap & Onward Enterprise ( Same bride dome, same caps, same spinning lights, balls on the ends )

4. The Motion Picture & Onward Enterprise. ( Total Refit )

Yes TMP counts as part of TOS, at least in my book

- W -
* Tongue firmly planted in cheek *

You're close but you're pretty far off on the WNMHGB version. It had the taller bridge, the bigger dish, the nacelle spikes, and the original orientation of the lower-primary-hull lettering. Oh, and the "eight impulse vents versus two" thing...

The WNMHGB version was basically a very MINOR tweaking of the "The Cage" version. Principally, the changes were in painted details.

One thing that I've never seen fully-described, at least not in any accurate and reliable way, but which I've heard about, is this. Supposedly there were some additional small revisions made to the model during the remainder of the series... markings, small physical changes, etc... PROBABLY due to repair work required on the model, I'd assume.

Oh, and I agree with Andy Probert's contention that the 1701(r) is not the same ship at all (probably it still has a couple of original components left, just so that they could fool the public into believing the Starfleet Appropriations Committee's claims that it wasn't a new-build ship. )

 

[Stardate]

Re: Enterprise will appear in next Trek film; ILM doing effe

And you haven't answered the question. What is there about the TOS Enterprise that is "dated". What 60s' design conventions are at play that clash with modern design conventions? How can anyone say that the design elements of the TOS Enterprise clash with 23rd century design conventions, when no one knows what those design conventions will be?

Why is orginal ENT dated? you ask. Well for me who comes from Nordic country in Europe first time i watch Star Trek was throw the movies in late 1980s. I found ENT Refit to be beautiful ship thow i found the neck and pylons to thin(this has to be resolves in XI). I never saw Orginal ENT until start off 1990s when i saw Space Seed and my first expression was it look outdated inside and out, didnt like nacelles comparred to ENT Refit e.c.c. Its was clearly 1960s starship design for low bugdet TV show. Why didnt they just put orginal ENT in TMP if it was so great?, beacuse there was a obeious reason when Motion Picture came out in 1979 Orginal ENT needed facelift for big screen.

ENT Refit design was great design and scould be main inspiration for ENT in XI along with some ENT E influances too not Orginal ENT. I dont care this violate canon.

 

[Woulfe]

Re: Enterprise will appear in next Trek film; ILM doing effe

^ Well, TPTB do not want to violate canon, so there you go.

- W -
* We're back were we started, aren't we ? *

 

[Peter the Younger]

Re: Enterprise will appear in next Trek film; ILM doing effe

Woulfe said:
^ Well, TPTB do not want to violate canon, so there you go.

- W -
* We're back were we started, aren't we ? *

They may (probably) define "canon" differently than you do.