Enterprise in both Star Trek universes

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by Captain59, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. Captain59

    Captain59 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I still think it's bitchin' that Enterprise is the only series that is completely intact in both Star Trek universes. :techman:
     
  2. King Daniel Paid CBS Plant

    King Daniel Paid CBS Plant Admiral Admiral

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    It is amusing.

    Although I dismiss all those "it looks too advanced" complaints that crop up as the rubbish they are, Enterprise certainly does look the part as a prequel to STXI. I loved how the Kelvin crew wore a stylized halfway between the ENT and TOS uniforms.

    Even the Romulan stuff from season four looks vaguely similar to Narada, mostly black and with all the exposed pipes and cables.
     
  3. JarodRussell

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    Well, the NX-01 engine room is certainly more advanced than the NuCC-1701 brewery. :guffaw:
     
  4. King Daniel Paid CBS Plant

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    Not really - ENT had a big vat/warp core in the middle of the room with catwalks around. STXI had several, bigger vats in a much larger area and more catwalks. As we saw at the end, the vats contained the warp cores, just without the glowing "windows" the ENT one had.
     
  5. Mach5

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    Yep, that's still a great little STFU for the haters. :rommie:
     
  6. RyuRoots

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    Eh, not really. We just shrug and say "Uh...okay." and keep watching the other shows (which I say as someone who doesn't hate ENT for canon violation or anything stupid like that, it's just...not my favorite).
     
  7. Mach5

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    Hating and not favoring are two very different things. Voyager is my least favorite Trek, and I still very much like it.
     
  8. Middleman

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    I have to side with you on this one. I think JJA was totally wrong to use a Budweiser Brewery Plant for the engine room of the NCC-1701 (just to save money). I thought it looked awful even before I found out it was a brewery. I also thought the old power plant for the Kelvin was "out there:" as well. I did think the bridge of the Kelvin was pretty awesome.
     
  9. Mach5

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    The Budweiser engine room looks like shit, and it looks even shittier compared to the original designs made by Ryan Church.

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  10. 6079SmithW

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    I wholeheartedly agree.:techman::bolian:

    Enterprise: Cannon in two universes.
     
  11. Captain Robert April

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    I think ENT is intact only up until the resolution of the Temporal Cold War; THAT'S where the divergence from the mainline Trek universe into JJTrek happens, not when Nero shows up.
     
  12. LS650

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    "Enterprise: Cannon in two universes"

    Does that warp 5 reactor run on gunpowder..?
     
  13. FormerLurker

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    Abrams didn't do it to save money. He did it because someone higher up wanted to render the engine room as all CGI, and JJ Abrams is a very tactile filmmaker. When the honcho wouldn't let him build a practical set, he hired out the brewery.

    A smart executive would let Abrams build his practical engine room set for the next film.
     
  14. I am Surak

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    I am afraid that the young people the Abrams Trek caters to do not give a darn about the engine room.....
     
  15. Admiral Shran

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    It's about the only thing I like about the Abrams-verse.
     
  16. King Daniel Paid CBS Plant

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    I'm 26, I loved the film and I didn't really care about the engine room. I know of people in their 40's and 50's who saw the film, loved it and didn't care (there are even a few on this BBS), so generalizing like that is absolute rubbish.

    I know far more about the technical side of Star Trek than is healthy - both real and pretend. I have everything from Franz Joseph's old technical manual to Scotty's Guide to the Enterprise, to the TNG and DS9 manuals and the rest - and it still didn't bother me in the least.
     
  17. Gaith

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    Enterprise in both Star Trek universes - and much of it, viz., "Terra Nova", is crap in both, too! :p
     
  18. Mach5

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    That's ridiculous. Even George Lucas (notorious for over-using CGI) wouldn't waste time doing interiors like this in CG. ILM would be asked to build a scaled model instead, like they did in Attack of the Clones for the Jedi archives, the corridor in the cloning facility etc...

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    The illusion is perfect in both examples, isn't it?
     
  19. King Daniel Paid CBS Plant

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    ^No it isn't. The constant use of CG was very noticable to me in King Kong and Terminator 4, too. The CG was great, no doubt, but it was clearly not real.
     
  20. LS650

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    A lot of movie CGI still has that 'unreal' look to it and is easily spotted.