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Earth Tribal Societies in Trek

Dingo

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I'm curious as to how tribal societies on Earth exist in the Trek-verse. I've seen they have separate colonies (Dorvan V) and the like and there seems to be a good bit of tolerance for them in various episodes (i.e. Kolopak's tribe in various Voyager episodes).

I'm brainstorming a fanfiction involving a Voyager character who's half Maori and part of his return home involves him reconnecting with that part of his heritage that he's largely put aside as ancient and irrelevant throughout his childhood.

His catalyst was when his grandfather was killed by the Cardassians in 2369 which prompted him to join the Maquis to avenge his grandfather. Most of his journey took place during his Delta Quadrant voyage where he finally open a series of recordings his grandfather made for him about his Maori heritage.

I'm wondering how contemporary Federation society regards these various tribes - especially people like Kolopak's tribe that seem to live 'off the grid' per se?
 
What is "tribal"? Basically all the Earth colonies we have seen in Star Trek have been small, close-knit, ingrown islands of separatism - tribes on their own right, quite regardless of any ethnic ballast the settlers might have carried. Surely colonial identity would override the other variants of tribal identity soon enough, probably already at the planning stages of the colonization.

The UFP core worlds seem to have little or no problem with the fact that they are represented in outer space by rebels and contrarians. The federal government readily supports the outlying colonies, and imposes its rule over them whenever necessary (i.e. in acute crises) but apparently never when unnecessary (i.e. when the local lifestyle isn't the cause or its destruction the solution to an acute crisis).

Kirk is a regular Herbert in most of TOS, probably overstating his authority over the locals, but even he usually only imposes his conservative values on weird alien settlements, not rogue Earth ones. "This Side of Paradise" is an example to the contrary, but it's easy to see Kirk's viewpoint. Elias Sandoval's tribe and its lifestyle was not the entity Kirk had problems with: the alien plants and the lifestyle they promoted was.

For all their righteous pissedoffness at Starfleet, the colonies in TNG and DS9 did not seem to fall under much federal rule. Indeed, one might question the whole existence of UFP "rule" as such, since laws seem to be extremely generic and accommodating of alien mores and practices. If Vulcans can keep their duels-to-death, Betazoids their intrusive telepathy and Trills their ruling parasites, it doesn't sound likely that the Feds would try and limit the expression of tribal identity anywhere in the UFP, be it in isolated colonies or amidst broader population.

Timo Saloniemi
 
his heritage ... ancient and irrelevant
My good friend Jamie, is full blooded Sioux, when he goes back to the rez in South Dakota he says he can barely get through the ceremonies, he doesn't have enough of the language and he left when he was seventeen. He is twenty-eight now and it's begining to bother him.

When I was eleven, my father moved my entire family from America to a fishing village in Brazil, partial because he wanted to immerse his children in the culture and language. My two brothers could barely speak Portuguese.

from REUNION
Picard: "The Enterprise crew currently includes representatives from thirteen planets. They each have their individual beliefs and values and I respect them all.
How much does the Federation (or Humanity) truly respect diversity in the 24th century? Some Star Trek fans hold that in the future Humanity will be, socially and culturally, homogeneous. "We are one people" Humanity will possess one ideal, one primary language, one government, one school system, one book of laws, one overall culture.

Anybody picking up on this theme of ... ONE?

Diversity implies a certain amount of disconnection in the over all group Human. While still having some level of connection. Memory Alpha had this under Dorvan V: "The settlers were worried about losing their traditional culture on an increasingly globalized Earth." That does not sound very promising, nor does it sound like a Earth I'd want to live on.

:)
 
The solution is obvious, though: there are plenty of planets to settle, and to found idealistic, individualistic societies on. Indeed, there seem to be no other sort...

And it's not as if the UFP would have to do anything particularly active to crush minorities. The sheer social weight of trillions of fellow beings would take care of the crushing, sooner or later. Which may be why the UFP so readily supports rebellious colonization, and protects primitive worlds from cultural contamination, and allows bizarre atrocities (from the viewpoint of one UFP species or another) to take place on member worlds, and so forth. Tribal identity wouldn't survive without such active support from the federal government.

Anybody picking up on this theme of ... ONE?

Kirk seemed to be big on unity. He "found the One sufficient"...

Timo Saloniemi
 
from The Way To Eden
SPOCK: One.
SEVRIN: We are One.
SPOCK: One is the beginning.
ADAM: Are you One ...
Timo, makes you wonder how many of those colonies are in fact penal colonies, in all but name?

Historically Britain had a outlet for the people who thought differently in the form of America, criminals were also sent to "the colonies." When America became independent in July 4, 1776 (combat ended October 19, 1781, war ended January 14, 1784), Britain lost that outlet/safety valve. On May 13, 1787 Britain started sending people (and convicts) to Botany Bay, Australia.

There are many ways that a government can suppress diversity without being all Draconian about it. Example. There is something to be said about all your citizens having a common second language, the government could insist that the common language be the first one. Your primary/first language has a lot to do with how you think about concepts culturally, your first language is the one you use inside your own mind.

(Picking on Britain again) for years it was illegal in parts of Britain to speak in Gaelic.
 
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There are many ways that a government can suppress diversity without being all Draconian about it. Example. There is something to be said about all your citizens having a common second language, the government could insist that the common language be the first one. Your primary/first language has a lot to do with how you think about concepts culturally, your first language is the one you use inside your own mind.

(Picking on Britain again) for years it was illegal in parts of Britain to speak in Gaelic.

That's an interesting view and I can actually see your point T'Girl.

I've come up with the idea of a colony world in the DMZ known as New Maoriland where my fictional hero's grandfather settled in his old age. Unfortunately New Maoriland is atop a rich duranium deposit that the Cardassians want. The relocation of colonists occurs and then violence breaks out between the Cardassians and the Maori. Some of the Maori colonists die to include our hero's grandfather and he joins the Maquis out of vengeance.

I've even made a subplot that the New Maoriland colonists become some of the fiercest warriors of the Maquis (owing to the longstanding Maori warrior culture that the colonists had rediscovered).
 
What is "tribal"? Basically all the Earth colonies we have seen in Star Trek have been small, close-knit, ingrown islands of separatism - tribes on their own right, quite regardless of any ethnic ballast the settlers might have carried. Surely colonial identity would override the other variants of tribal identity soon enough, probably already at the planning stages of the colonization.

The UFP core worlds seem to have little or no problem with the fact that they are represented in outer space by rebels and contrarians. The federal government readily supports the outlying colonies, and imposes its rule over them whenever necessary (i.e. in acute crises) but apparently never when unnecessary (i.e. when the local lifestyle isn't the cause or its destruction the solution to an acute crisis).

Kirk is a regular Herbert in most of TOS, probably overstating his authority over the locals, but even he usually only imposes his conservative values on weird alien settlements, not rogue Earth ones. "This Side of Paradise" is an example to the contrary, but it's easy to see Kirk's viewpoint. Elias Sandoval's tribe and its lifestyle was not the entity Kirk had problems with: the alien plants and the lifestyle they promoted was.

For all their righteous pissedoffness at Starfleet, the colonies in TNG and DS9 did not seem to fall under much federal rule. Indeed, one might question the whole existence of UFP "rule" as such, since laws seem to be extremely generic and accommodating of alien mores and practices. If Vulcans can keep their duels-to-death, Betazoids their intrusive telepathy and Trills their ruling parasites, it doesn't sound likely that the Feds would try and limit the expression of tribal identity anywhere in the UFP, be it in isolated colonies or amidst broader population.

Timo Saloniemi

Probably so. Fed law has probably embraced diversity to the point where it becomes potentially harmful (all concepts have potential harms at their logical extremities), permitting families to be raised in extremely hazardous locales, outside of the mainstream of the economy and society, and without socializing factors like compulsory education with standardized curricula, or the interstellar datanet, or devirginizing holodecks, etc.

I'd be ever so pissed if I lived in the Federation, and wound up born to some hippie farmers on Setlik III.

Of course, people gotta go somewhere, and I've suggested that the real estate market is necessarily state-run on the major planets, if we're to accept the lack of a medium of exchange in the Fed (which I agree is a bad idea for us, but I think is an interesting idea to be explored in a science-fictional setting). In this regard, Earth, Luna, Mars, and maybe even Venus (which is the logical place to terraform, not crappy, half-a-gravity Mars), and likewise Vulcan and Betazed and Trill, are probably full to capacity. Capacity probably doesn't mean six billion on Earth, however. I suspect, given their love for nature, and the extremely, necessarily waste-heat intensive nature of Fed technology, they've pared the maximum occupancy to three or four billion...
 
Timo, makes you wonder how many of those colonies are in fact penal colonies, in all but name?
It seems that colonists tend to found their settlements without government help - even their ships seem to be their own property. And once the colony is established, it isn't in any way monitored by the federal government (our TOS heroes typically arrive to investigate stuff after years of silence!), despite typically possessing independent starflight capabilities and thus not being anything like a secure prison...

In that sense, I fail to see parallels to the penal colony practices in the latter half of the second millennium here on Earth. Colonists leave on their own volition as far as we know, and the social pressures that expedite their departure are their own internal ones. After leaving, colonists are free to move, and importantly also free to cross-organize if they wish to - something the powers utilizing penal colonies on Earth would never have allowed to happen.

What we know is that small individual colonies are not particularly diverse - which is no wonder because they tend to be of tribal size. We have no idea whether homeworlds or well-established larger colonies are diverse, because Star Trek does not take place at such locations (large = expensive to film!). Suppression of diversity is thus something of a weak hypothesis, supported only by the biased statements of some of the more extreme colonists.

Or, come to think of it, not even truly supported by those. Even the most counterculture colonial attempt we saw, in "Way to Eden", was not motivated by suppression, but by technophobia - Dr Sevrin was creating an interstellar branch office for his Flat Earth Society, not because his ideas were being shunned or his lifestyle restricted, but because he found Eden's climate nicer than Earth's for his allergies.

Unfortunately New Maoriland is atop a rich duranium deposit that the Cardassians want. The relocation of colonists occurs
I wonder... The idea of the DMZ, apparently established after TNG "Journey's End" showed that the original ideas of clean division and relocation didn't work, was that each world inside the DMZ would remain in the hands of its original owners. UFP colonies would remain UFP, Cardassian colonies would remain Cardassian, and supposedly any independent worlds would remain independent. So if Cardassians forcibly relocate anybody on a world that isn't a Cardassian colony, that's casus belli - Starfleet would come blazing in and bombard Cardassia Prime until they apologized and withdrew, not because the UFP cared about the colony, but because the UFP would care about the upholding of the treaty and the political reputation riding on that.

Are the Maori living on a Cardassian world, then, and agreeing to be subjects of the Cardassian Union and to obey its laws? That is, is the colony identical to Dorvan V from "Journey's End" and dissimilar from all the colonies shown in DS9?

That raises the question of whether any Maquis could operate from New Maoriland at all - Cardassians would have the legal right to do whatever they please to suppress them there, even if there were some DMZ limitations on what sort of armaments they could use for that. Would the Maquis Maori emigrate to continue their fight in the style of the DS9 Maquis, or would they mount local resistance on a world as tightly controlled by Cardassia as Bajor used to be?

I suspect, given their love for nature, and the extremely, necessarily waste-heat intensive nature of Fed technology, they've pared the maximum occupancy to three or four billion...

...Or less. One of the original TMP concepts was that San Francisco had been largely dismantled and returned to natural/parkland state due to reduced, de-urbanized population on Earth; the matte paintings instead eventually went the "big showy futuristic architecture" city model. But I could easily see the UFP exercising ridiculously strict population control, which would in turn allow them to make real estate as free as food, in accordance with their seeming political ideology.

These tribal colonies are probably a good example - or even a piece of proof - of space colonization not being a relief valve for overpopulation (and thus perhaps the overpopulation not existing), and of the colonists (and probably all future humans) having relatively little interest in filling the worlds they inhabit.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Are the Maori living on a Cardassian world, then, and agreeing to be subjects of the Cardassian Union and to obey its laws? That is, is the colony identical to Dorvan V from "Journey's End" and dissimilar from all the colonies shown in DS9?

I'd say it's in the same system as Dorvan V. And yes, a similar issue arises. The governor of New Maoriland agreed at first to allow his people to be under Cardassian law but then the Cardassians started oppressing his people.

That raises the question of whether any Maquis could operate from New Maoriland at all - Cardassians would have the legal right to do whatever they please to suppress them there, even if there were some DMZ limitations on what sort of armaments they could use for that. Would the Maquis Maori emigrate to continue their fight in the style of the DS9 Maquis, or would they mount local resistance on a world as tightly controlled by Cardassia as Bajor used to be?

As to how the Maquis Maori would fight the Cardassians it would be both. Many of them with access to space travel would join cells like DS9 Maquis while others would fight the Cardassians on their planet.

I eventually have Eddington's assistance forcing the Cardassians off New Maoriland as part of the story.
 
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