DS9 and Voyager in Chronological Order

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  1. DigificWriter

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    Hi, all. Just for fun, I ended up putting together a Chronological Guide for Deep Space Nine and Voyager that covers the first 5 seasons of DS9 and the first 3 seasons of Voyager, and figured I'd share it with my fellow Trek fans.

    [Deep Space Nine Season 1]

    Emissary (Deep Space Nine 1x01/1x02)
    Past Prologue (Deep Space Nine 1x03)
    A Man Alone (Deep Space Nine 1x04)
    Babel (Deep Space Nine 1x05)
    Captive Pursuit (Deep Space Nine 1x06)
    Q-Less (Deep Space Nine 1x07)
    Dax (Deep Space Nine 1x08)
    The Passenger (Deep Space Nine 1x09)
    Move Along Home (Deep Space Nine 1x10)
    The Nagus (Deep Space Nine 1x11)
    Vortex (Deep Space Nine 1x12)
    Battle Lines (Deep Space Nine 1x13)
    The Storyteller (Deep Space Nine 1x14)
    Progress (Deep Space Nine 1x15)
    If Wishes Were Horses (Deep Space Nine 1x16)
    Dramatis Personae (Deep Space Nine 1x17)
    The Forsaken (Deep Space Nine 1x18)
    Duet (Deep Space Nine 1x19)
    In the Hands of the Prophets (Deep Space Nine 1x20)

    [Deep Space Nine Season 2]
    The Homecoming (Deep Space Nine 2x01)
    The Circle (Deep Space Nine 2x02)
    The Siege (Deep Space Nine 2x03)
    Cardassians (Deep Space Nine 2x04)
    Invasive Procedures (Deep Space Nine 2x05)
    Melora (Deep Space Nine 2x06)
    Rules of Acquisition (Deep Space Nine 2x07)
    Necessary Evil (Deep Space Nine 2x08)
    Second Sight (Deep Space Nine 2x09)
    Rivals (Deep Space Nine 2x10)
    Sanctuary (Deep Space Nine 2x11)
    The Alternate (Deep Space Nine 2x12)
    Armageddon Game (Deep Space Nine 2x13)
    Paradise (Deep Space Nine 2x14)
    Whispers (Deep Space Nine 2x15)
    Shadowplay (Deep Space Nine 2x16)
    Playing God (Deep Space Nine 2x17)
    Profit and Loss (Deep Space Nine 2x18)
    Blood Oath (Deep Space Nine 2x19)
    The Maquis, Part 1 (Deep Space Nine 2x20)
    The Maquis, Part 2 (Deep Space Nine 2x21)
    The Wire (Deep Space Nine 2x22
    Crossover (Deep Space Nine 2x23)
    The Collaborator (Deep Space Nine 2x24)
    Tribunal (Deep Space Nine 2x25)
    The Jem'Hadar (Deep Space Nine 2x26)

    [Deep Space Nine Season 3/Voyager Season 1]
    The Search, Part 1 (Deep Space Nine 3x01)
    The Search, Part 2 (Deep Space Nine 3x02)
    The House of Quark (Deep Space Nine 3x03)
    Equilibrium (Deep Space Nine 3x04)
    Second Skin (Deep Space Nine 3x05)
    The Abandoned (Deep Space Nine 3x06)
    Civil Defense (Deep Space Nine 3x07)
    Meridian (Deep Space Nine 3x08)
    Fascination (Deep Space Nine 3x09)
    Defiant (Deep Space Nine 3x10)
    Past Tense, Part 1 (Deep Space Nine 3x11)
    Past Tense, Part 2 (Deep Space Nine 3x12)
    Caretaker (Voyager 1x01/1x02)
    Parallax (Voyager 1x03)
    Life Support (Deep Space Nine 3x13)
    Time and Again (Voyager 1x04)
    Heart of Stone (Deep Space Nine 3x14)
    Phage (Voyager 1x05)
    Destiny (Deep Space Nine 3x15)
    The Cloud (Voyager 1x06)
    Prophet Motive (Deep Space Nine 3x16)
    Visionary (Deep Space Nine 3x17)
    Distant Voices (Deep Space Nine 3x18)
    Eye of the Needle (Voyager 1x07)
    Ex-Post Facto (Voyager 1x08)
    Through the Looking Glass (Deep Space Nine 3x19)
    Improbable Cause (Deep Space Nine 3x20)
    The Die is Cast (Deep Space Nine 3x21)
    Emanations (Voyager 1x09)
    Prime Factors (Voyager 1x10)
    State of Flux (Voyager 1x11)
    Heroes and Demons (Voyager 1x12)
    Explorers (Deep Space Nine 3x22)
    Family Business (Deep Space Nine 3x23)
    Cathexis (Voyager 1x13)
    Shakaar (Deep Space Nine 3x24)
    Faces (Voyager 1x14)
    Jetrel (Voyager 1x15)
    Learning Curve (Voyager 1x16)
    Projections (Voyager 1x17)
    Elogium (Voyager 1x18)
    Twisted (Voyager 1x19)
    Facets (Deep Space Nine 3x25)
    The Adversary (Deep Space Nine 3x26)
    The 37s (Voyager 1x20)

    [Deep Space Nine Season 4/Voyager Season 2]
    Initiations (Voyager 2x01)
    Non Sequitur (Voyager 2x02)
    The Way of the Warrior (Deep Space Nine 4x01/4x02)
    Persistence of Vision (Voyager 2x03)
    The Visitor (Deep Space Nine 4x03)
    Hippocratic Oath (Deep Space Nine 4x04)
    Partuition (Voyager 2x04)
    Tattoo (Voyager 2x05)
    Indiscretion (Deep Space Nine 4x05)
    Rejoined (Deep Space Nine 4x06)
    Cold Fire (Voyager 2x06)
    Little Green Men (Deep Space Nine 4x07)
    Maneuvers (Voyager 2x07)
    Resistance (Voyager 2x08)
    Starship Down (Deep Space Nine 4x08)
    Prototype (Voyager 2x09)
    The Sword of Kahless (Deep Space Nine 4x09)
    Our Man Bashir (Deep Space Nine 4x10)
    Alliances (Voyager 2x10)
    Homefront (Deep Space Nine 4x11)
    Threshold (Voyager 2x11)
    Meld (Voyager 2x12)
    Dreadnought (Voyager 2x13)
    Death Wish (Voyager 2x14)
    Paradise Lost (Deep Space Nine 4x12)
    Lifesigns (Voyager 2x15)
    Investigations (Voyager 2x16)
    Crossfire (Deep Space Nine 4x13)
    Return to Grace (Deep Space Nine 4x14)
    Deadlock (Voyager 2x17)
    Sons of Mogh (Deep Space Nine 4x15)
    Bar Association (Deep Space Nine 4x16)
    Innocence (Voyager 2x18)
    Accession (Deep Space Nine 4x17)
    The Thaw (Voyager 2x19)
    Tuvix (Voyager 2x20)
    Rules of Engagement (Deep Space Nine 4x18)
    Hard Time (Deep Space Nine 4x19)
    Resolutions (Voyager 2x21)
    Shattered Mirror (Deep Space Nine 4x20)
    Basics, Part 1 (Voyager 2x22)
    The Muse (Deep Space Nine 4x21)
    For the Cause (Deep Space Nine 4x22)
    To the Death (Deep Space Nine 4x23)
    The Quickening (Deep Space Nine 4x24)
    Body Parts (Deep Space Nine 4x25)
    Broken Link (Deep Space Nine 4x26)

    [Deep Space Nine Season 5/Voyager Season 3]
    Apocalypse Rising (Deep Space Nine 5x01)
    Basics, Part 2 (Voyager 3x01)
    False Profits (Voyager 3x02)
    The Ship (Deep Space Nine 5x02)
    Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places (Deep Space Nine 5x03)
    ...Nor the Battle to the Strong (Deep Space Nine 5x04)
    The Assignment (Deep Space Nine 5x05)
    Sacred Ground (Voyager 3x03)
    Trials and Tribble-ations (Deep Space Nine 5x06)
    Let He Who is Without Sin (Deep Space Nine 5x07)
    Things Past (Deep Space Nine 5x08)
    Flashback (Voyager 3x04)
    The Chute (Voyager 3x05)
    Remember (Voyager 3x06)
    The Ascent (Deep Space Nine 5x09)
    The Swarm (Voyager 3x07)
    Future's End, Part 1 (Voyager 3x08)
    Future's End, Part 2 (Voyager 3x09)
    Warlord (Voyager 3x10)
    The Q and the Grey (Voyager 3x11)
    Rapture (Deep Space Nine 5x10)
    The Darkness and the Light (Deep Space Nine 5x11)
    Macrocosm (Voyager 3x12)
    The Begotten (Deep Space Nine 5x12)
    Fair Trade (Voyager 3x13)
    Alter Ego (Voyager 3x14)
    For the Uniform (Deep Space Nine 5x13)
    Coda (Voyager 3x15)
    Blood Fever (Voyager 3x16)
    In Purgatory's Shadow (Deep Space Nine 5x14)
    Unity (Voyager 3x17)
    By Inferno's Light (Deep Space Nine 5x15)
    Rise (Voyager 3x18)
    Doctor Bashir, I Presume (Deep Space Nine 5x16)
    A Simple Investigation (Deep Space Nine 5x17)
    Business as Usual (Deep Space Nine 5x18)
    Darkling (Voyager 3x19)
    Ferengi Love Songs (Deep Space Nine 5x19)
    Ties of Blood and Water (Deep Space Nine 5x20)
    Favorite Son (Voyager 3x20)
    Before and After (Voyager 3x21)
    Real Life (Voyager 3x22)
    Children of Time (Deep Space Nine 5x21)
    Soldiers of the Empire (Deep Space Nine 5x22)
    Blaze of Glory (Deep Space Nine 5x23)
    Distant Origin (Voyager 3x23)
    Empok Nor (Deep Space Nine 5x24)
    Displaced (Voyager 3x24)
    In the Cards (Deep Space Nine 5x25)
    Worst Case Scenario (Voyager 3x25)
    Call to Arms (Deep Space Nine 5x26)
    Scorpion, Part 1 (Voyager 3x26)

    Note 1: This chronology attempts, whenever/wherever possible, to order things by Stardate, and relies on a number of "missing" Stardates that may or may not be Canonical depending on your own point of view.

    Note 2: Any assistance/suggestions people could give me in terms of arranging/ordering the episodes for DS9 Season 6/Voyager Season 4 and DS9 Season 7/Voyager Season 5 would be greatly appreciated.

    Note 3: First post updated to place Dax back in production/story order in spite of its Stardate.

    Note 4: First post updated to correct an unconscious error I'd made in accidentally flipping Sanctuary and The Alternate
     
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  2. Tosk

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    Regardless of stardates, I wouldn't split multi-parters that way. No way there's time for four eps of VOY between Homefront and Paradise Lost, or seven eps of DS9 between Basics part 1 and 2.
     
  3. DigificWriter

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    ^ Actually, there is. Homefront's Stardate is 49170.65 (placing its events in March), while Paradise Lost's Stardate is 49364 (placing its events in May). That's a gap of a little more than 2 months.

    As for Basics 1 and 2, the Stardate I have for Part 1 is 49700.0 (placing its events in September), with the listed Stardate for Part 2 being 50032.7 (placing its events in January, which is a gap of about 4 months.

    Both DS9 and Voyager had a habit of jumping ahead significantly in time between the events of Parts 1 and 2 of some of their multiparters.
     
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    And that's why I ignore stardates. Four months have passed and they all still look exactly the way they did in the previous ep? They're still looking for shelter and water. Part 2 clearly picks up very soon after part 1.
     
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    Aside from Lifesigns and Investigations, Voyager was diligent and meticulous in its use of Stardates (as was DS9), so it makes no sense to ignore Stardates because you're basically ignoring narrative intent by doing so.

    If Stardates weren't important, they wouldn't have been used.

    Anyway, this is getting somewhat off-subject. Does anybody have suggestions as to how to chronologically arrange DS9 Season 6/Voyager Season 4 and DS9 Season 7/Voyager Season 5?
     
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  8. TonyLeung82

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    Where did you get the stardate for Basics Part 1 with 49700? I did not find anything about this particular date?
     
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    ok, you already answered my question. Nevertheless it is not really convinving...I also would not put Basic Part 1 in September and Part 2 in January.
     
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    So not from the show itself. "If Stardates weren't important, they wouldn't have been used." Indeed. :)
     
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    I'm choosing to assume that the person who posted the Stardate for Basics 1 and others didn't just arbitrarily make up the number he/she gave, meaning that it came from somewhere at least semi-official, even if it wasn't ultimately used in the episode itself.
     
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    Just trying to find a picture of 2.11 (with Basics, part 1) and failing.
     
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    Ah I just found it. Scroll down to the product description and it says this.

     
  18. Tosk

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    You can't go by made up stardates for a VHS cover. Not unless you're willing to accept that DS9's fourth season episodes Little Green Men, Crossfire, and Return to Grace actually happened during the first half of DS9's third season. Not to mention the VHS cover placing Homefront and Paradise Lost in the same period despite having proper on-screen stardates given.
     
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    The episode before Basics Part 1 war "Resolutions" with a stardate given 49690, Janeway says this stardate is the 24th day on this planet. In the episode itself Tuvok mentions another stardate: 49694,2 with making contact with the vidians convoy.

    Memory Alpha says:
    Now you can calculate to yourself if the stardate of 49700 is correct. In my opinion it is impossible. No matter what at amazon is written in a commentary. A day is something with 2-3 stardates, isnt it? Make out of it a stardate of 49900, there i would say this is possible
     
  20. retroenzo

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    Don't get me wrong. I disagree with these stardates but I wonder if that's where the confusion lies. I did try something similar once and try to convert stardates from the video covers into actual dates and failed miserably. I think it worked out that two episodes which obviously spanned several days each both apparently happened in the same day.
     
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