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As for the "conquered" line, I'm not sure we need to rationalize it. I'm inclined to treat it as a one-time mistake and just forget about it. (Which is what the show basically did.)

When I was watching that episode in preparation for reading a book by some fellow named Greg, that line jumped out at me. I assumed the TOS writers ignored it, as it simply was too much work to "fix".
 
As for the "conquered" line, I'm not sure we need to rationalize it. I'm inclined to treat it as a one-time mistake and just forget about it. (Which is what the show basically did.)

When I was watching that episode in preparation for reading a book by some fellow named Greg, that line jumped out at me. I assumed the TOS writers ignored it, as it simply was too much work to "fix".
TOS writers weren't into "fixing" things. That sort of thinking would come later. "Mistakes" were never mentioned again.
 
As for the "conquered" line, I'm not sure we need to rationalize it. I'm inclined to treat it as a one-time mistake and just forget about it. (Which is what the show basically did.)

When I was watching that episode in preparation for reading a book by some fellow named Greg, that line jumped out at me. I assumed the TOS writers ignored it, as it simply was too much work to "fix".
TOS writers weren't into "fixing" things. That sort of thinking would come later. "Mistakes" were never mentioned again.

I guess that comes with the territory, especially as I don't think many of the people involved in Star Trek had any clue it would still be popular 50 odd years later.
 
When I was watching that episode in preparation for reading a book by some fellow named Greg, that line jumped out at me. I assumed the TOS writers ignored it, as it simply was too much work to "fix".
TOS writers weren't into "fixing" things. That sort of thinking would come later. "Mistakes" were never mentioned again.

I guess that comes with the territory, especially as I don't think many of the people involved in Star Trek had any clue it would still be popular 50 odd years later.

Exactly. Nobody had any idea that there would be websites and reference books and wikis and podcasts and panels examining every line of every episode decades later. They were more focused on getting the episodes done on-time and on-budget, so that the show stayed on schedule.

And it's not like the writers and directors could just go to their bookshelves and pull down a complete guide to the planet Vulcan and its history. They were making this stuff up as they went along--unlike the later shows which inherited a lot of the world-building that had gradually accumulated over the years.
 
MCCOY: You're welcome. But I will. And please, Mister Spock, if you won't join me, don't disapprove of me. At least not until you've tried it, huh?

See there we have a prime example of one reason why I can't get into TOS. I don't need to listen to a character who acts like a superior dipshit because he drinks.

As opposed to acting like a superior dipshit while intending to let entire worlds die? See "Pen Pals" and "Homeward".
 
MCCOY: You're welcome. But I will. And please, Mister Spock, if you won't join me, don't disapprove of me. At least not until you've tried it, huh?

See there we have a prime example of one reason why I can't get into TOS. I don't need to listen to a character who acts like a superior dipshit because he drinks.

And man do I hate the "don't knock it till you've tried it." line. No Doctor, after all I don't need to chop off my hand to find out that I would not like that either.

I know how you feel. My brother tried the same argument with me when I attempted to warn him away from using Speed. I don't need to try it to know that it's dangerous.
 
MCCOY: You're welcome. But I will. And please, Mister Spock, if you won't join me, don't disapprove of me. At least not until you've tried it, huh?

See there we have a prime example of one reason why I can't get into TOS. I don't need to listen to a character who acts like a superior dipshit because he drinks.

And man do I hate the "don't knock it till you've tried it." line. No Doctor, after all I don't need to chop off my hand to find out that I would not like that either.

I don't see how McCoy is acting that way at all. All he's asking is 1) that Spock not poop on his party, and 2) that Spock not assume it's no good until he's had a taste, which I would think should be, to a Vulcan, an appeal to empiricism and logic.

As for the last, sure, that would explain why we have an epidemic of one-handed amputees in addition to all the alcoholics we've ever had. Because the two are so comparable.

Some people--most people--can handle their liquor, by which I mean most people can have a drink and not need to get smashed, i.e., they can stop at the warm glow stage. Don't knock it until you've tried it. :)
 
I think the more interesting comment from McCoy is about the Vulcan race being conquered. Really? Conquered by whom?

Could McCoy have perhaps been referring to a particular Vulcan tribe or clan particular to Spock's ancestry which, in a time before the Vulcan reformation, was conquered and subjucated by another group of Vulcans?
 
After decades of watching Trek, I can still be surprised. Amazingly, I never noticed what McCoy said there when he offered Spock a drink. And, I've never heard that expression anywhere else.

Same. I can't believe I never noticed that. And kudos to the writers of the original screenplay.
 
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