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Drawing of Trek character (copyrights question)

MyCylon

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I have a drawing of a Star Trek character (Dukat) I created some years ago. It's a drawing based on a photograph I saw in a sci-fi magazine.

My question: Can I post this drawing on my website (online portfolio)? Or could this get me into trouble? Also: If I can post it, what kind of copyright notices would be necessary?
 
I wouldn't worry about getting in any kind of trouble. The art members post here and on their own sites is similar.
 
I started doing Trek-based art more than 30 years ago, in zines, art shows, and now on my website. Have never had any problems at all.

Now if you want to try and preserve your copyright, you can put a copyright notice-- "All rights reserved by artist. Can only be reproduced with their expressed permission" Of course, I don't know how much good that is when your posting on the web where anyone can download.
 
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In terms of copyright notices, I'm more concerned about notices I would need to add to ensure I don't get into trouble with Paramount or Viacom or whoever owns the rights to the Dukat character right now.

How have you handled this? Have you included notices stating who the character belongs to? Does it make the difference whether you use the name of the character or not?

What is the legal situation in this case anyway? Obviously, I'm the creator of the drawing. But the character I depicted is owned by somebody else. Where exactly does that leave me?
 
Short answer (and yes, IAAL, although this is *not* legal advice): the copyright holder in the original photo generally owns the copyright in any "derivative work," which your drawing seems to be. See, for example, this circular from the US Copyright office. You also may want to consider the right of publicity of Marc Alaimo, the actor who played Dukat, which is separate from copyright. Practically speaking, whether anyone would object is an entirely different question, but attributing (with a link) to the original work is not a bad thing to do in any event. {ProfJonathan}
 
Well, we had a long running discussion about this because some eBay seller took my a picture of a render I made, chopped off the logo, and said he wouldbe making wooden models of it. You can read about it here. Problem is, that's a clearly identifiable ship that is not made by CBS/Paramount. On the other hand... It's your drawing. You can show it to show off your skills without anybody making a problem out of it. So I think you can do it sefely :)
 
I thought the whole copyright thing always centered around money - are you monetarily profiting from your work without giving Paramount their cut? If no, then they can complain all they want but even if they did "shut you down", they wouldn't gain much for their efforts, since no money is involved. If you will be selling copies of these drawings, then they'd have something to say about it.

That sound about right jezor?
 
Thanks to everyone for the replies so far! There’s some really helpful information here.

The reason I’m so careful in this matter is that I think there’s a potential risk of copyright infringement. Now, in many cases companies won’t press charges in this matter because they recognize that they benefit a lot more than they lose when people create interesting stuff based on their IP. However, they can always potentially change their minds about all of that…

Short answer (and yes, IAAL, although this is *not* legal advice)

Of course. I’m just looking to find out what other people know, have heard or how they deal with it.

the copyright holder in the original photo generally owns the copyright in any "derivative work," which your drawing seems to be. See, for example, this circular from the US Copyright office.

It definitely seems to fall into that category since it’s not only a drawing based on a character but also one created on the basis of a photograph of the character.

You also may want to consider the right of publicity of Marc Alaimo, the actor who played Dukat, which is separate from copyright.

Interesting. I hadn’t thought of that.

Practically speaking, whether anyone would object is an entirely different question, but attributing (with a link) to the original work is not a bad thing to do in any event. {ProfJonathan}

That’s probably true. I’m not sure that pictures on the internet, mind you (it probably is). It was on the back of a magazine a few years ago. I might have a look and see if I can find it. I suppose a reference to that particular issue would also work if there’s no link.

Well, we had a long running discussion about this because some eBay seller took my a picture of a render I made, chopped off the logo, and said he wouldbe making wooden models of it. You can read about it

here. Problem is, that's a clearly identifiable ship that is not made by CBS/Paramount. On the other hand... It's your drawing.

I remember seeing the thread a while back. I’m sorry about what happened. That really sucks.

Since you created an original design, wouldn’t all of it (drawing and design) clearly be yours? Or is creating something that has Trek’s ‘style’ enough to make it CBS/Paramount’s?

You can show it to show off your skills without anybody making a problem out of it. So I think you can do it sefely :)

Probably. I’m just very careful when it comes down to these things.

I thought the whole copyright thing always centered around money - are you monetarily profiting from your work without giving Paramount their cut? If no, then they can complain all they want but even if they did "shut you down", they wouldn't gain much for their efforts, since no money is involved. If you will be selling copies of these drawings, then they'd have something to say about it.

I’m not interested in selling the drawing at all. I just want to show it (along with other drawings) to showcase my drawing skills.

I think making money off it would definitely be inviting trouble. If you’re not making money off it, I’d assume it’s at least somewhat less risky.
 
no, money has no bearing on whether a work infringes copyright. it may have some bearing on penalties, if you're sued or otherwise held legally liable.

fanworks are often seen as a tolerable infringement, provided that you're not competing with the original copyright holder (in this case, paramount) or its licensees.

crediting original sources is always good form, whether a legal requirement or not.
 
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