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Dr Bashir: Traitor, Hero, Harbinger, Fool

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On several occasions, Dr Bashir did everything within his power to help people and do no harm. But sometimes he imperiled his comrades, and trod dangerously close to moral abuses and even treason.


What are some opinions of folks here about Bashir's strict black-and-white moral code? When we first meet Bashir he exhibited an idealistic, naive, self-centered hero complex. Over the years, frontier life seasoned him - but did it ever change his essential nature as a self-serving, moralistic idealist--and loose cannon?

Examples:

When he and Miles were stuck on a planet with Jem'Hadar, he was bound and determined to find a cure for White addiction; even though finding the cure would certainly result in his lack of further usefulness to the Jem'Hadar - not an enviable position to be in. When they had a window to escape, he refused to take it, compelling Miles to destroy his work for his own good. His search for a cure, while possibly a useful tool in the war against the Dominion, would most likely never reach Starfleet, nor be any benefit to the Alpha Quadrant; but likely result in split Jem'Hadar factions causing even more chaos. And most likely getting he and Miles executed immediately following.

On another occasion, Bashir and Miles sought to bait Section 31 to the station on the assumption that, if 31 created the Founder's disease, they must have had a cure as well - an assumption that does not necessarily follow. Julian was bound by his rigid moral code as a humane doctor to create a cure that could heal the entire Dominion and potentially turn the tide of war and power in the AQ to the enemy's favor.

Regardless of the moral implications of Section 31's act of genocidal biological warfare, Bashir stubbornly and blindly let his behavior be guided by a simplistic healer's morality. In this way he provides a model of heroic morality; yet he didn't really wrestle with the more far-reaching consequences of his actions. Had he cured the Founders prematurely, those very moral actions might have easily resulted in the death of billions of AQ beings and the destruction of countless civilizations in the years to come. At the point of his attempt to devise a cure, the Dominion had no intention of relenting its mission to control - or destroy - all life in the AQ. However Bashir rested comfortably behind a simple, clear moral loyalty of friendship to Odo - a man whose actions were not always in the best interest of the Alpha Quadrant either. Yes, he was trying to help his friend. No, this did not release him from the very real promise of genocide he might have ushered into the Alpha Quadrant.

There were other instances as well. His very nature as a genetically-enhanced human could cast doubt on his loyalties, as well as his actions championing the other modified-people. Together with Bashir, these people subsequently calculated that surrender to the (genetically gleeful) Dominion was the only viable conclusion to the war - and proceeded to take matters into their own hands.

So, Bashir: Traitor? Hero? Harbinger? Or Fool?
 
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Most of the things you say here can sort of be explained away fairly easily. When he was trying to find a cure for the White, he should have taken all his work and escaped with it, which gives him (and Starfleet) the option of controlling this rather than just giving the Jem'Hadar the cure and hoping that they would be ok. This was rendered moot by the fact that there was no cure.
As to the Founder cure, there was no evidence that he was going to hand it over to the Founders if he did find it. In any case, this turned out pretty much ok anyway as when he found the cure it was a negotiating tool later. As an individual, he didnt really have much of an impact on the war so im not sure how much of this really applies.
 
The Hippocratic Oath seems to refer specifically to the patients in his care. While he probably ruminated on the geopolitical and philisophical consequences of actions related to the war he probably interpreted the Oath to mean that it wasn't his place to impose political action on the way he distributed medical care. It could be argued that by taking the Jack Pack's theory of surrender seriously he was sacrificing lives, but those were only conjectural patients, not the real patients that existed, namely the Founders who were ill.
 
Naive idealist. Andy Robinson probably said it best when he said that Bashir represented the best of humanity. He represented what we aspire to. Sloan also said something similar in Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges. He said that the Federation needed men like Bashir, men who do the right thing no matter what the cost, men of good conscience who could sleep at night.
 
Naive idealist. Andy Robinson probably said it best when he said that Bashir represented the best of humanity. He represented what we aspire to. Sloan also said something similar in Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges. He said that the Federation needed men like Bashir, men who do the right thing no matter what the cost, men of good conscience who could sleep at night.


Amen. Bashir epitomizes "pre-9/11" thinking. On the other hand, In The Pale Moonlight, Sisko goes all Cheney on the Federation.
 
The Jem'hadar cure: The jury is out whether it could have helped the Feds or hurt them. But at the very least, it would have been a smart thing to try to re-create it and have it in your back pocket just in case. Considering that whatever happens, the moral and strategic implication are bound to be complex, I was disappointed this was never followed up. It could have formed the basis for an entire plot thread.

Section 31: Even if the idea that S31 had a cure was a shot in the dark, it was understandable that Bashir and O'Brien would at least pursue this avenue. The alternative is simply to do nothing about a genocide attempt by your own side. Ironically enough, the way the war ended, you could interpret it as a direct result of the disease, sending the message that genocide is a useful and successful strategy in war, which is probably not the message we were intended to get. ;)
this turned out pretty much ok anyway as when he found the cure it was a negotiating tool later
It wasn't a "tool" (that would have been an even more blatant endorsement by the DS9 writers of genocide!) Odo gave away the cure to the Founder with no preconditions and she presumably could have taken the gift back to the GQ (assuming the Prophets let her through) without agreeing to end the fighting at all. Odo's gift could have been catastrophic and doomed the Federation.

The "genocide is good" message comes from the assumption that the Founder ended the war simply because she was too weak from disease to carry on. She'd never showed any tendency towards mercy or gratitude when she was healthy, so where did this abrupt change in personality come from? There's no explanation other than sheer exhaustion and ill health. (Even that smacks of convenience.)
 
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Bashir is all of the above, that's why he's a great character.

By traitor I mean he is a traitor for lying to Starfleet about his enhancements. Nothing would have been wrong by handing over the cure to the genocide disease to the Founders. Odo would have done it anyways, Bashir would probably go with him. Both would be compelled by their morals to do so, regardless of any corrupt Federation orders not to. Doing that wouldn't be a betrayal. The Federation was betraying itself by not doing that.

Bashir started out as a naive idealist, but when it comes time to save Odo he realizes that idealism doesn't always work and he's gonna have to get his hands dirty to get things done. The scene where he tells Sloan that he expects Sloan to struggle to the bitter-end is brilliant. Unfortuately that scene is kind of undermined by the episode not having the fortitude to follow through with having Bashir actually torture Sloan. But the point remains that Bashir was fully-ready to do so.:techman:

The DS9 writers did blatantly endorse genocide by making the cure into a negotiating tool. Even though it was totally out-of-character for Bashir and Odo to go along with it. It was also totally out-of-character for the female Founder to surrender. It is right that it smacked of bad storytelling for the sake of convenience and tacking on a rushed, inappropriate ending that really they needed way more time to flesh-out properly.
 
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he's a complex character, which is why i liked him. i have very little in common with him and would have made different decisions to him in some situations. but he always meant well and tried to do "the right thing". even if his view on what "the right thing" to do was a little narrow at times
 
When he and Miles were stuck on a planet with Jem'Hadar, he was bound and determined to find a cure for White addiction; even though finding the cure would certainly result in his lack of further usefulness to the Jem'Hadar - not an enviable position to be in. When they had a window to escape, he refused to take it, compelling Miles to destroy his work for his own good. His search for a cure, while possibly a useful tool in the war against the Dominion, would most likely never reach Starfleet, nor be any benefit to the Alpha Quadrant; but likely result in split Jem'Hadar factions causing even more chaos. And most likely getting he and Miles executed immediately following.

Had he been able to break the Jem'Hadar free of their addiction to the white, he could have created a weapon the Federation could use, and if the cure caused a rift in the Jem'Hadar that would be good too. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. A Jem'Hadar "civil war" would only help the Federation at the very least by giving it time to build, modify and upgrade more ships.

On another occasion, Bashir and Miles sought to bait Section 31 to the station on the assumption that, if 31 created the Founder's disease, they must have had a cure as well - an assumption that does not necessarily follow. Julian was bound by his rigid moral code as a humane doctor to create a cure that could heal the entire Dominion and potentially turn the tide of war and power in the AQ to the enemy's favor.

Regardless of the moral implications of Section 31's act of genocidal biological warfare, Bashir stubbornly and blindly let his behavior be guided by a simplistic healer's morality. In this way he provides a model of heroic morality; yet he didn't really wrestle with the more far-reaching consequences of his actions. Had he cured the Founders prematurely, those very moral actions might have easily resulted in the death of billions of AQ beings and the destruction of countless civilizations in the years to come. At the point of his attempt to devise a cure, the Dominion had no intention of relenting its mission to control - or destroy - all life in the AQ. However Bashir rested comfortably behind a simple, clear moral loyalty of friendship to Odo - a man whose actions were not always in the best interest of the Alpha Quadrant either. Yes, he was trying to help his friend. No, this did not release him from the very real promise of genocide he might have ushered into the Alpha Quadrant.

This is a very big, very complicated issue.

We could say that Bashir was following his oath and doing everything he could to treat his patient, Odo. The Dominion was intent on conquering the AQ, not destroying all life in it. That task would have been too big and taken immense resources, even if the Dominion could have built a fleet and bred enough Jem'Hadar to do it, it would have taken vast resources and could have even left parts of the AQ undermanned and vulnerable.

Also, the only talk of genocide by the Dominion was by Weyoun when he noted that when the war was over, Earth would most likely be the site of future rebellion, so its population had to be destroyed. And when the Female Changeling ordered the destruction of all Cardassians. Section 31 had already launched a genocidal attack. To me, it looks like the Federation was promising genocide.

The jump in logic to lure Sloan to DS9 to get the cure from him was a faulty one. Sloan may only have had knowledge of the existence of the disease but not its make up. It was however the only option open. Bashir either had to let Odo die, or try to find out if a cure exsisted. To do that they had to lure an agent of S31 to DS9, then hope that Sloan or which ever operative was sent had enough information on the disease to create a cure.

--An observation on Section 31. They were not very good. There was a Founder right at DS9 and not one agent there to keep an eye on him. Not one agent was there to determine if Bashir had actually found a cure. Very sloppy of them. Also without the Founders there would be no one to keep the Jem'Hadar in line, that would have been bad.

There were other instances as well. His very nature as a genetically-enhanced human could cast doubt on his loyalties, as well as his actions championing the other modified-people. Together with Bashir, these people subsequently calculated that surrender to the (genetically gleeful) Dominion was the only viable conclusion to the war - and proceeded to take matters into their own hands.

So, Bashir: Traitor? Hero? Harbinger? Or Fool?

Bashir's loyalty was to the Federation. A way to free the Jem'Hadar could have been a powerful weapon or negotiation tool. A way to cure the Founders would be the same. Genetically superior beings, do not necessarily have large egos, like Khan. They could be compassionate, or creative, or just want to live a normal relatively uneventful life. Someone like Bashir.

Bashir was no traitor. Bashir was a hero. He was no harbinger. He was no fool.

He was human.
 
Also without the Founders there would be no one to keep the Jem'Hadar in line, that would have been bad.

In light of The Ship - where, rather than launch the all-out assault Sisko & co had been expecting from the beginning once the changeling was dead and there was no one to protect, the Jem'Hadar all committed suicide - I'm not sure that assumption is warranted.
 
Also without the Founders there would be no one to keep the Jem'Hadar in line, that would have been bad.

In light of The Ship - where, rather than launch the all-out assault Sisko & co had been expecting from the beginning once the changeling was dead and there was no one to protect, the Jem'Hadar all committed suicide - I'm not sure that assumption is warranted.

I had believed the reason they all committed suicide was because they had failed in their objective, the rescue of a Founder.
 
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