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Doctor Who wins the Hugo

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In one of the least-surprising results in award history - since it was the ONLY TV series nominated (the others were short films) - Doctor Who has won the Hugo for Best Dramatic Presentation - Short Form, for The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang.

The book Chicks Who Dig Time Lords: A Celebration of Doctor Who By the Women Who Love It also won for "Best Related Work".

http://www.thehugoawards.org/2011/08/2011-hugo-award-winners

The Moffat 2-parter beat A Christmas Carol and Vincent and the Doctor, along with something called The Lost Thing, and another production called F--k Me Ray Bradbury. I think this is the first year only one TV series has been nominated in the category.

Alex
 
I was disappointed "Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury" lost. I'm not sure why or how it was it was nominated, but either way, that was pure genius! The song is catchy, the video is awesome -- it's more creative than 99% of what you hear on the radio today. :)

Chicks Dig Time Lords wasn't a surprising win, though I thought it was an underwhelming book. I thought it needed more focus and better organization. I didn't feel like the editors ever got past the idea, "Hey, we'll have twenty-some women write about what Doctor Who means to them," to figure out what they were trying to say.
 
Not dead, just taking a hiatus. A lot of sci fi shows ended recently, others haven't yet been established.
 
As much as I love "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" (certainly more than some), I would have preferred "Vincent and the Doctor" winning.

Moffat's Hugo trophy shelf is getting awfully crowded. :lol:
 
Emh said:
As much as I love "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" (certainly more than some), I would have preferred "Vincent and the Doctor" winning.
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Agreed. "Vincent and the Doctor" was clearly superior to every other episode of DW Series Five.
 
^ Agreed as well. I was rooting for Vincent too. As enjoyable as TPO/TBB was, I think Vincent was a better choice for "Dramatic Presentation".
 
Emh said:
As much as I love "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" (certainly more than some), I would have preferred "Vincent and the Doctor" winning.
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QFT. Though I would've liked "Fuck Me Ray Bradbury" too.
 
Kestrel said:
Emh said:
As much as I love "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" (certainly more than some), I would have preferred "Vincent and the Doctor" winning.
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QFT. Though I would've liked "Fuck Me Ray Bradbury" too.
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I really don't think something like "Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury" (or "Gollum's Acceptance Speech at the MTV Movie Awards") should be eligible to compete against television program episodes.

The awards categories really ought to be re-organized to, "Best Film," "Best Television Production," and, say, "Best Short."
 
I think it should have been Vincent and the Doctor, myself. That was an excellent episode of television. As good as TPO/TBB was
 
Vincent and the Doctor had great heart. I don't think either episode was my favorite of the season, though, but, yeah, give someone besides Moffat some recognition.
 
Allyn Gibson said:
Chicks Dig Time Lords wasn't a surprising win, though I thought it was an underwhelming book. I thought it needed more focus and better organization. I didn't feel like the editors ever got past the idea, "Hey, we'll have twenty-some women write about what Doctor Who means to them," to figure out what they were trying to say.
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It surely surprised me! Underwhelming? You can say that again. I don't know, I sort of assumed that the book would be more academic, and look at Doctor Who and its fandom from a feminine perspective - instead what I got was page after page of "my life in fandom" type memoirs - most of which were pretty much identical and revolved around how nice everyone they ever met at a convention was! It took me months to struggle through it, I could only manage a few pages a day before losing the will to live. I can only assume that those who voted for it did so because they felt some sort of loyalty to Doctor Who and/or its fandom, not because they'd actually read the book - or maybe the other nominees in that category were really bad. Or maybe the book just wasn't aimed at me.
 
Sci said:
Emh said:
As much as I love "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" (certainly more than some), I would have preferred "Vincent and the Doctor" winning.
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Agreed. "Vincent and the Doctor" was clearly superior to every other episode of DW Series Five.
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In your not so humble opinion.

In my not so humble opinion, I preferred Amy's Choice, the Angels two parter, Pandorica/Bang and even that one with the football and the fat man over Vincent.
 
I preferred Amy's Choice and the Lodger as episodes if we had a time machine and the authority to nominate episodes.
 
Andrew_Kearley said:
Allyn Gibson said:
Chicks Dig Time Lords wasn't a surprising win, though I thought it was an underwhelming book.
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It surely surprised me! Underwhelming? You can say that again.
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I thought it was just me! I didn't struggle with the book as badly as you did, but I did have to force myself to read some of it, mostly by making sure it was the only thing I had with me on the train.

I was expecting something closer in style to Time Unincorporated or Doctor Who and Philosophy -- a number of voices, arranged together along thematic lines, approaching Doctor Who from a number of different perspectives. But as you say, the book was mainly first-person perspectives on what fandom is like. That's not a bad approach, but there was a sameness to the book. What I really wanted, if that was the perspective they were going to take, was a look at Squee culture as it relates to Doctor Who, especially lighting on how the Internet and the reemergence of the series in 2005 altered Doctor Who fandom.

So, Chicks Dig Time Lords fell flat for me. It was a disappointing book, and I couldn't figure out who it was for or why anyone should spend their time reading it. It puzzled me that online no one else seemed to have this reaction. Chicks seemed beloved, and given the weak field I expected it to be a shoo-in for the Hugo. This isn't the first time my opinion on Who has diverged from online fandom, and it certainly won't be the last -- as an example, Gallifrey Base loves Touched by an Angel, but I thought after I'd read it that it was one of the weakest Who novels of recent meory.
 
Allyn Gibson said:
Chicks Dig Time Lords wasn't a surprising win, though I thought it was an underwhelming book. I thought it needed more focus and better organization. I didn't feel like the editors ever got past the idea, "Hey, we'll have twenty-some women write about what Doctor Who means to them," to figure out what they were trying to say.
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That too often seems to be the case with those sort of books - for instance, I've got one about the Batman mythos, where half the writers restated the basics (Parents murdered, batcave, etc), as if they were writing for people who'd never heard of Batman or read the other chapters in the book, while others assumed an encyclopaedic knowledge of, oh, who Alfred's henchmen were back when he was thought dead but was actually amnesiac and a supervillain. Basically, a total lack of the editing needed to make the book work as a book where you might read more than one piece.
 
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