Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal canon?

[Agenda]

This series has some serious backers. For instance, Memory Alpha essentiallly considers it canon.

I don't. Sure, it has its bright spots, but quality-wise, it's basically another Season 3.

Also, having the character's voices - but none of the facial expressions - just makes it feal "unreal" to me.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

It was very silly, quite cheesy, it was often rubbish (as was lots of live-action Trek over the years), but it was fun. I consider it as canon as everything else in Star Trek.

TAS is also home to Mr. Arex, one of my all-time favourite Star Trek characters.

 

[diankra]

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Yes. There's nothing in it that I find more difficult to accept (credibility-wise) than there is in any of the other series.
Also, as far as I recall it was the first Trek I ever saw (Yesteryear), so for a little while as a kid I thought it was the original, and was impressed that they'd managed to find actors for the live action version who looked so like the characters in the cartoons... :-)

 

[Shatnertage]

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Absolutely. And the incidental music is in my personal canon too, since once I watch an episode I can't get it out of my head for days.

Limited animation rules.

And Mr. Arex is also one of my favorite characters. It's certainly not because he gets powerful dramatic scenes or anything like that. It's just because he's cool.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I have to say I've never watched it. So I can't include it in my canon, but I wouldn't necessarily discount it if I ever do watch any. Should I watch it?

 

[Warped9]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

Yes.

 

[Shatnertage]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

If your nostalgia for the 70s is greater than your impatience with really rough animation, absolutely. It's a great show.

 

[Admiral James Kirk]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

Of course. You don't honestly think I take Richard Arnold's edicts seriously do you? TAS is as canon as any other Trek to come out of the mount. It's certainly better than Voyager or Enterprise. And it had waaaaaaay better writers.

 

[Finn]

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^I'd attribute it to the fact it's animated. They'd be able to do things that would be deemed too costly to be done in a life action show, like that alien at the helm...

 

[mythme]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

There's nothing in there that's too far-fetched to make it not canon. "Practical Joker" is the hardest for me to swallow. But if I'm forced to admit TATV or "Threshold" are canon, then so is TAS.

 

[The Wormhole]

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Yes.

And I also think Lt. Arex kicks ass.

 

[Agenda]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

Of course. You don't honestly think I take Richard Arnold's edicts seriously do you? TAS is as canon as any other Trek to come out of the mount.

Not according to the official Star Trek website.

 

[Caliburn24]

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I object to the very idea of "personal canon". Canon is something that is agreed upon by a group, generally a very large group.

It has no meaning if everyone has their own canon.

With that said TAS was produced and sold the same as any other professional Star Trek production. If it is not canon than none of the shows are canon.

 

[Admiral James Kirk]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

Of course. You don't honestly think I take Richard Arnold's edicts seriously do you? TAS is as canon as any other Trek to come out of the mount.

Not according to the official Star Trek website.

Big deal. The OS sticks to the party line that Arnold spent years spouting off about. I doubt it even occurred to them to just turn around and say it is canon. Nothing's stopping them. Gene is dead. Majel is dead. Richard Arnold might as well be dead. They can change the company line any time they want to.

 

[Agenda]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

Of course. You don't honestly think I take Richard Arnold's edicts seriously do you? TAS is as canon as any other Trek to come out of the mount.

Not according to the official Star Trek website.

Big deal. The OS sticks to the party line that Arnold spent years spouting off about. I doubt it even occurred to them to just turn around and say it is canon. Nothing's stopping them. Gene is dead. Majel is dead. Richard Arnold might as well be dead. They can change the company line any time they want to.

But they haven't. Yet.

 

[Agenda]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I object to the very idea of "personal canon". Canon is something that is agreed upon by a group, generally a very large group.

It has no meaning if everyone has their own canon.

With that said TAS was produced and sold the same as any other professional Star Trek production. If it is not canon than none of the shows are canon.

Well, I personally go by the company. For instance, Marvel comes out with a lot of comics that are all produced and sold the same. But if Marvel comes out and says that a particular book or storyline is or isn't canon, then you sort of have to take their word for it, as sucky as it may be.

 

[Nerys Myk]

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Sure.

 

[Luther Sloan]

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Just so there is no confusion. TAS is canon. For a while there I didn't think it was myself (because at one point it got de-canonized).

However, it is considered canon (again).

On June 27, 2007, Star Trek's official site incorporated information from The Animated Series into its library section, maintaining the fact that TAS is canon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_The_Animated_Series#Canon_issues

 

[F. King Daniel]

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Just in case anyone missed it:
The scene in last year's Star Trek reboot where young Spock is bullied by his classmates? A reworking of a scene from "Yesteryear", only this time Spock beat the shit out of his chief tormentor at the end.

I had an "OMG TAS!" moment at the cinema.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

What does "personal canon" mean anyway? That I consider TAS to have actually happened? Well, none of Star Trek has actually happen.

Did the events of TAS happen for characters within the other Trek series (perhaps the only meaningful definition of Canon)?? Well, lately it seems so... a prominent example are the remarks in "Once More Unto the Breach" (DS9) that Kor had served on the Klothos once. Another is the appearance of Vulcan's Forge on Enterprise.

I guess it comes down to this: Officially, TAS is non-Canon. However, individual writers have more and more ignored this verdict, and thus the non-Canon status of the show was increasingly undermined.