Disney's JOHN CARTER

[JimTheBuilder]

I'd promised my son, Ethan a "guys night out" which we haven't done in ages, so he and I went to see "John Carter".

In a word...AMAZING!

Truly a spectacular film. Action-packed, beautifully envisioned, great story with terrific twists and turns, wonderful characters, romance, adventure...simply, a whole lotta fun!

A bit of violence here and there, (nothing more than what you'd find in a Star Wars film) as should be expected from Edgar Rice Burrows, but all in all...we had a blast!

Admittedly, I'd never read the book myself, figuring it to be musty, old fuddy-duddy sci fi...but knowing who the author was, I supposed it would be ok....boy was I surprised! Now my boy is all fired up to digest EVERYTHING E.R. Burrows....awesome....

 

[captcalhoun]

burroughs.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

I thought it was quite quite dull. Regurgitated action sequences and tropes from any number of these sorts of films. Lots of set pieces from the Star Wars prequels retooled for this film it seemed to me that it wasn't a terrible film but it was dull and unoriginal.

 

[captcalhoun]

it's based on a 100 year old novel. everyone else ripped it off.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

it's based on a 100 year old novel. everyone else ripped it off.

Perhaps. But plenty of films manage to be based on older material and not seem so derivative.

 

[Admiral2]

it's based on a 100 year old novel. everyone else ripped it off.

Perhaps. But plenty of films manage to be based on older material and not seem so derivative.

Don't be an idiot. That's like saying nobody should ever make a movie based on Martin Caidin's Cyborg because they'd have to steal too much material from the Six Million Dollar Man.

I agree with the the OP. I just saw this today and thought it was great. I got the same rush from watching it as i got from reading the original stories, which means that the director knew what he was doing when crafting it.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

it's based on a 100 year old novel. everyone else ripped it off.

Perhaps. But plenty of films manage to be based on older material and not seem so derivative.

Don't be an idiot. That's like saying nobody should ever make a movie based on Martin Caidin's Cyborg because they'd have to steal too much material from the Six Million Dollar Man.

I agree with the the OP. I just saw this today and thought it was great. I got the same rush from watching it as i got from reading the original stories, which means that the director knew what he was doing when crafting it.

No, that isn't what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is these ideas can be without coming off the same. How many times is it said the idea is good but the execution is badly done? This is the same exact thing, the ideas came from this book and could have been done well, but they executed it in a very well trodden way.

 

[captcalhoun]

well, i liked it.

 

[OmahaStar]

We quite enjoyed it over the weekend, everyone in the group I was with. One was an enormous fan of the books, and was worried it would get screwed up. Her only slightly negative comment was "Well, it was Disneyfied, but even the rat couldn't destroy John Carter."

 

[Kelso]

I went to see it last night with my fiance and we both loved it. I was a little worried that she wouldn't get into it, but I think she enjoyed it even more than I did!

 

[auntiehill]

Er........shouldn't this be in the SF&F forum?

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Er........shouldn't this be in the SF&F forum?

Already 2 threads about it over there.

 

[auntiehill]

Then why not just post one's opinion in one of those threads?

 

[Deckerd]

Bob's been called an idiot in them too.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Bob's been called an idiot in them too.

Nah it was in this one. I think. Lost track. Though everyone seems to disagree with me. Oh well, each to their own.

It has been brought to my attention I actually am an idiot. Carry on.

 

[Base_Delta_Zero]

Great film. Very fun, especially the scenes that were done better than they were in the SW prequels. It felt more Star Wars than that trash. Hope they make sequels. Now I have to go read the books.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

BBC News

Walt Disney has said it expects to lose $200m (£126m) on its movie John Carter, making it one of the biggest flops in cinema history.
The film, about a military captain transported to Mars, could result in an $80-120m loss for Disney's movie business during the current quarter.
Disney shares fell 1% in after hours trading after the announcement.

Also says they're likely to make a profit with TV rights and so on but must be a blow to Disney for it to have made them a total loss on their movies this quarter.

 

[Deckerd]

D'you think that might be partly because it was so derivative?

 

[Bob The Skutter]

D'you think that might be partly because it was so derivative?

No, it was because it was badly marketed. Everyone would have loved it if they'd just marketed well and people would have gone to see it...

 

[Gov Kodos]

D'you think that might be partly because it was so derivative?

No, it was because it was badly marketed. Everyone would have loved it if they'd just marketed well and people would have gone to see it...

It might have done better, but the budget should have been reined in long before it ever got to be a marketers problem to sell the film.