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Ding dong, HD-DVD is dead

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I wondered how long that would take.. Late last week BestBuy decided to start the push for Blu-Ray... While they will sell to the end they will recommend the Blu..


EXTRA EXTRA... Wal-mart and Sam's are now pushing Blu-ray also.. They will dump all HD movies by summer..
 
This kinda makes all those HD-DVD commercials look, um...shall I say, hmm....not really sure. Outdated? It's like advertising for the Superbowl on Monday after the game.
 
Or those ads for events that took place months ago that they just leave up on buses or subway cars.

I'm glad the format war is over, if only to simplify the market a little. I still have no plans to suddenly come into a lot of money and buy an HD set and player, though. ;) Also, I'm still not too thrilled about Blu-Ray movies costing more on average than the same film on DVD with exactly the same features, though I suppose it's inevitable. Watching something in HD is great, but IMO it's not really The Next Great Thing, at least not yet pricewise.
 
Ah, another format war ends before I have the money to take sides.

Perhaps this will mean some nice cheap players floating around in a year or two and I can pick up all those old HD-DVD TOS remastered discs for a song. Unless Blu-Ray becomes inexplicably cheap and the discs with it.
 
The battle to be the next laserdisc is won, well done Sony...

I think the industry's hope that we will all buy our dvd collections again in HD so they all get fatter bonuses might fall rather flat somehow.
 
As long as you can rip Blueray onto conventional DVD+Rs, everything will be well.
 
Finally. Now give me Blu-Ray burners and media at DVD prices so I start to backup my data.
 
Hitman said:
Finally. Now give me Blu-Ray burners and media at DVD prices so I start to backup my data.

Damn Right! I can take my three binders and wittle them down to just one.
 
Hitman said:
Finally. Now give me Blu-Ray burners and media at DVD prices so I start to backup my data.

Don't forget, the more expensive choice has won.
 
BCI said:
Hitman said:
Finally. Now give me Blu-Ray burners and media at DVD prices so I start to backup my data.

Don't forget, the more expensive choice has won.

Plus HDD and flash drive prices are so low now a write-once format has less appeal, for me anyhow.

I've just got a 750GB HDD for backing up my stuff - got to about 200GB and ran out of stuff - for now - hitting the torrents now! ;)
 
Looks like I picked the wrong day to cave in and get that TOS-R Season 1 boxset. I wonder if I still have my receipt.
 
ChristopherPike said:
Looks like I picked the wrong day to cave in and get that TOS-R Season 1 boxset. I wonder if I still have my receipt.

Whoops - I doubt you are alone in this however - a lot of people on this site seem to have invested in HD.
 
I wonder if Seasons 2 & 3 will still get the combo disc treatment? Maybe at a reduced price? Or should I return my still in shrink wrap set and wait for the inevitable Blu Ray edition?

Fortunately, I only got Remastered Trek for standard DVD definition and haven't got a HD-DVD player. Still, around £100 was a heck of a lot for something I'm only going to be able to use one side of.
 
...and unlike in the 80s death-match between VHS and Betamax, this time the porn industry didn't decide the victor...

(I had a few friends who picked Betamax and LaserDisc machines and ended up with doorstops.)
 
ChristopherPike said:
I wonder if Seasons 2 & 3 will still get the combo disc treatment? Maybe at a reduced price? Or should I return my still in shrink wrap set and wait for the inevitable Blu Ray edition?

Well as you say a Blu-Ray set is inevitable...

Fortunately, I only got Remastered Trek for standard DVD definition and haven't got a HD-DVD player. Still, around £100 was a heck of a lot for something I'm only going to be able to use one side of.

Well thats the toss up - take it back and wait for the Blu-Ray or keep it knowing you will only ever use the SD side...
 
USS KG5 said:
ChristopherPike said:
Looks like I picked the wrong day to cave in and get that TOS-R Season 1 boxset. I wonder if I still have my receipt.

Whoops - I doubt you are alone in this however - a lot of people on this site seem to have invested in HD.
less of an investment when they were selling the player for $100 and including 9 movies for free. At the very least, it's a nice upconverting DVD player, and the $100 pricepoint is similar to what you'd pay for an upconverter anyway.

Blu-Ray is the last man standing, but you can't really say that they've WON until they lower the price on their players and discs to the point where people start to buy them as the norm. Right now, they're still an expensive novelty, and at $399+, no one is going to be in a hurry to change sides.

Even the discs, which were heavily promoted as higher-capacity (and thus able to be filled with lots of special features) aren't using their own capabilities, and are on average about twice the price of the regular version.

Where's the rush to convert? As has been said, until the players and discs come down in price, and actually provide the benefits that were promised, they're just another laserdisc. Nice enough, but too much money for too little improvement. And that's coming from someone with a 1080p tv and an appreciation for the image quality.
 
Scout101 said:
USS KG5 said:
ChristopherPike said:
Looks like I picked the wrong day to cave in and get that TOS-R Season 1 boxset. I wonder if I still have my receipt.

Whoops - I doubt you are alone in this however - a lot of people on this site seem to have invested in HD.
less of an investment when they were selling the player for $100 and including 9 movies for free. At the very least, it's a nice upconverting DVD player, and the $100 pricepoint is similar to what you'd pay for an upconverter anyway.

Blu-Ray is the last man standing, but you can't really say that they've WON until they lower the price on their players and discs to the point where people start to buy them as the norm. Right now, they're still an expensive novelty, and at $399+, no one is going to be in a hurry to change sides.

Even the discs, which were heavily promoted as higher-capacity (and thus able to be filled with lots of special features) aren't using their own capabilities, and are on average about twice the price of the regular version.

Where's the rush to convert? As has been said, until the players and discs come down in price, and actually provide the benefits that were promised, they're just another laserdisc. Nice enough, but too much money for too little improvement. And that's coming from someone with a 1080p tv and an appreciation for the image quality.

Understand (and I'm one of these foks) - if you paid $1000+ for an HD TV (and tahat's the low end as most people are spending $3000 on average - not to mention a speaker system, power conditioner) - $400 for a Blu Ray player ain't that much. And if you DON'T own a HDTV, you don't have any need for a Blu-Ray player.

Thus, until HD components come down across the board and HDTVs make a bigger penetration; you won't see a Blu-Ray expolsion.
 
USS KG5 said:
ChristopherPike said:
I wonder if Seasons 2 & 3 will still get the combo disc treatment? Maybe at a reduced price? Or should I return my still in shrink wrap set and wait for the inevitable Blu Ray edition?

Well as you say a Blu-Ray set is inevitable...

Fortunately, I only got Remastered Trek for standard DVD definition and haven't got a HD-DVD player. Still, around £100 was a heck of a lot for something I'm only going to be able to use one side of.

Well thats the toss up - take it back and wait for the Blu-Ray or keep it knowing you will only ever use the SD side...
My main concern is for those who want to finish collecting TOS-R on bog standard DVD. So HD-DVD has gone under, what will happen to Seasons 2 & 3? They'll release it on Blue Ray but that's unlikely to have DVD on the other side. For now, and I'm sure I'm not alone here, I have zero interest in Hi Def and simply want to see TOS-R legitimately. Anyone living in the US has the luxury of just tuning in to a weekly broadcast...
 
Noname Given said:Understand (and I'm one of these foks) - if you paid $1000+ for an HD TV (and tahat's the low end as most people are spending $3000 on average - not to mention a speaker system, power conditioner) - $400 for a Blu Ray player ain't that much.

Odd that this was in reply to my post, as my last sentence was that I own a HDTV, 1080p LCD. And it cost quite a bit more than $1000 (bought it last April, a 46" samsung LCD).

It's not that the blu-ray player is a TON of money, it's that it's a ton of money IN RELATION TO the format it is trying to replace. $99 gets you an upconverting DVD player that makes standard discs look 'close' to HD quality. Blu-ray players are currently selling for anywhere between $399 and 799, on average. Looks nicer, definitely, but not a HUGE difference. And they aren't taking advantage of the storage size to add all kinds of special features, different camera angles, the stuff they promised. They've not even finished the blu-ray standard yet, and told us that older players will not be able to play the special features on newer discs...


And if you DON'T own a HDTV, you don't have any need for a Blu-Ray player.

Thus, until HD components come down across the board and HDTVs make a bigger penetration; you won't see a Blu-Ray expolsion.

agree 100%. Blu-ray has outlasted HD-DVD, but it has not won anything yet. It's still a niche market, and until the prices come down to a reasonable level, it won't see a huge adpotion. There was already an annoucement of some super-HD standard that is getting developed, so if blu-ray doesn't step it up quickly, it might not even be established before it gets overtaken by a product that offers a bigger improvement or other advantage...
 
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