Wolf In The Fold is I think one of the better Star trek episodes. A combination mystery/crime drama with a sci-fi twist. One thing has always bothered me though. It seems to have been established that the entity was a non-corporeal being that took over bodies to do its work rather than taking a form itself. If so then administrator Hengist wasn't the killer anymore than Scotty was. Yet it was his body they beamed into outer space to get rid of the creature. Wasn't Hengist a innocent man possessed by an entity forcing him to do things he wouldn't have normally done? Would Kirk have killed Scotty so easily if the entity stayed in Scotty's body?
Did They Kill Hengist?
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Hengist was already dead (he had been killed by Redjac, who subsequently re-entered the corpse and animated it again) when he was beamed out into space.
Before that, Hengist was simply a victim of possession, just like Scotty. I'm sure that Hengist was innocent, as you say. But it wasn't Kirk who killed Hengist, it was Redjac. The body that died at the end of the episode was just that, an already dead body.
Before that, Hengist was simply a victim of possession, just like Scotty. I'm sure that Hengist was innocent, as you say. But it wasn't Kirk who killed Hengist, it was Redjac. The body that died at the end of the episode was just that, an already dead body.
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^^ Was that in the script?
I haven't seen the episode in years but I recall having the same thoughts as Dark Journey(with the great avatar...who is that?!!??!) when I saw it. Poor little Voice of Piglet!
I haven't seen the episode in years but I recall having the same thoughts as Dark Journey(with the great avatar...who is that?!!??!) when I saw it. Poor little Voice of Piglet!
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Piglet the psycho killer
Yeah she looks cold or at least the room looks like it might be chilly
Here is a Trek Core image of Hengist already dead in the conference room; the entity has temporarily gone to Jaris.
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x14/Wolf_in_the_Fold_201.JPG
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x14/Wolf_in_the_Fold_201.JPG
Hmmm, interesting, hadn't thought of that. Wouldn't it be weird if Hengist was always dead. If Redjac killed him like 10 years ago as was just animating his corpse the whole time?. But then I wonder if Redjac was in Scotty at the time of the murders then Hengist would be back to his normal self and wouldn't he want to report what was going on? Of course he probably wouldn't remember the murders, but wouldn't he remember not remembering anything? This is getting confusing. Star Trek is spooky and deep on so many levels.
Try moving your eyes just a little to the northeast of where you are currently looking. There is a clue there.
Perhaps not "always", as in "killed ten years ago"; the body might start to rot or something. Redjac would probably find it advantageous to possess the only real police officer on the whole planet initially - no need to kill him if it possessed him all the time. But then came these visitors from outer space, and Redjac saw the opportunity to do lots of nice murders and then dump them all on the newcomers. That would mean leaving Hengist's body for a time, so at that point Redjac would probably either sedate or otherwise incapacitate, or then kill, Hengist. Probably just the former at first - but the latter when it became clear that staying in the copper's body would no longer be advantageous. Which is why I think Redjac only killed Hengist when the audience saw him die, aboard the Enterprise.
What do you think, who committed the murders in the physical sense? Was the first one done by Scotty's hand, or did the critter just daze Scotty and use Hengist's hand? Somebody would have had to deliver the knife to Scotty if he were the killer... In theory, the poor lass could have killed herself, too. If the critter fed on feelings of terror, what would be more horrible than seeing one's own hand stab oneself to death?
In the second murder, Scotty is by far the likeliest suspect, but in theory it could have been anybody - Hengist, some Joe Schmoe abducted from the street and quietly killed afterwards, whoever. But that'd require picking the lock, a seemingly unnecessary complication for Redjac.
In the third murder, neither Scotty nor Hengist were particularly close to the victim - was it McCoy at that time? Could the critter be so subtle as to leave McCoy unable to tell he himself had used the knife? Could it control multiple minds and bodies at once? Would it daze everybody and then take over the body of Scotty or Hengist, move to the victim and do the deed?
Timo Saloniemi
Nardpuncher
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Try moving your eyes just a little to the northeast of where you are currently looking. There is a clue there.
I'm...trying...to...move...my...eyes...but...can't!
So true; it would make a nice sig line.
The fact that they were so surprised that hengist was "dead" in the briefing room made me think that he had been already dead. Maybe before the Enterprise came to argelius, maybe after they just arrived. But Hengist was already dead when Kirk made the decision to beam him out into space.
Unless Redjac could somehow keep the body from rotting as long as he possessed it. Redjac could make Hengist's body *speak*, right?
He was like Marcus Scarman in Pyramids of Mars, just an animated corpse...with some memories intact, and animated by Sutek.
He DID own the knife that was used to skewer those chicks, or at least bring it with him from Rigal.
He DID own the knife that was used to skewer those chicks, or at least bring it with him from Rigal.
Redjac was animating Hengist body, keeping everything running. Hengist could speak so the lungs worked, he had pale complexion, but not deadly pale. Most likely he possessed normal skin temperature, ate, drink and went to the toilet. But without Redjac inside the the body, Hengist was completely dead.
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