did the 1st Doctor have any adventures as a younger man??

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  1. Morpheus 02

    Morpheus 02 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Just wondering...but did the first Doctor ever have any adventures on a Tardis as a young man?

    Any possibility of a younger 1st Doctor meeting up with an older 1st self as well as the current?
     
  2. Nightowl1701

    Nightowl1701 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    According to one novel (Divided Loyalties), he did go on a little joyride in his Academy days in a stolen Type 18 TARDIS - which turned out to be his first encounter with the Celestial Toymaker and cost the life of a classmate. Other than that, nothing until he left with Susan.
     
  3. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    We've seen him stealing the TARDIS, thanks to multiverse Clara encountering him at the time. Does Uneartly Child give any indication how long they had been gone from Gallifrey?

    In The Doctor's Wife, Idris says that the 900+ year old Doctor had been walking past the "pull to open" sign for 700 years, so we can figure on a 200 year old Doctor stealing the TARDIS in the first place.

    I like the idea he had at least one adventure as a younger man. It would have given him the urge to do more "adventuring".
     
  4. Nightowl1701

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    No direct indication from An Unearthly Child. But from the sheer number of adventures mentioned in various stories (both TV and otherwise) and so far published, I figure the First Doctor and Susan had to have been out there for at least 50, more likely 100+ years before arriving in 1963.
     
  5. The Wormhole

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    Presumably when the First Doctor was a young man was when he was living the stuffy life of a proper Time Lord, so no, probably not much if any adventuring done in those days. Then again, he did seal the rift at the Medusa Cascade when he was only 90 years old.
     
  6. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    That was probably just a science class field trip for Timelords.
     
  7. diankra

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    There's a long-standing fan theory that the TARDIS he stole was one he'd previously used on trips away from Gallifrey on official Time Lord business.
     
  8. Cutie McWhiskers

    Cutie McWhiskers Captain Captain

    Depends on when he stole it, when he picked up Susan (unless she is his biological granddaughter who also escaped with him at the same time), and so on.

    "The Edge of Destruction" definitely refers to harrowing adventures prior to "An Unearthly Child" that put in the final missing pieces as to why the Doctor started out so vicious toward Ian and Barbara in the first place, given that they spent a lot of time trying to show him (Susan already figured out they were okay!) that human beings evolved and became more civilized (even if it took thousands of centuries) and even by the time of "The War Games" the Doctor certainly reacts to being told (by the War Chief, another renegade Time Lord) how for half a million years that humans were finding new ways of systematically killing each other, so it's a known fact that humans were rarely seen very kindly by the Time Lords and it's now the Doctor's turn to point out the planet's unique problems and how he tries to help...

    He probably did assignments for the Time Lords but, due to whatever catastrophe, ultimately left and either saved Susan, or picked her up elsewhere where she calls him "grandfather" as endearment. There are so many gaps that could be creatively resolved... I prefer the idea he stole what he could get access to (while it was in the shop to be repaired) as opposed to taking the capsule he may have been assigned in pre-catastrophe duties.
     
  9. Emh

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    One of those adventures is covered in Big Finish's Quinnis, which Susan referred to directly in The Edge of Destruction.
     
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  10. C.E. Evans

    C.E. Evans Admiral Admiral

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    I always saw that one of the reasons the First Doctor stole a TARDIS and left Gallifrey was to have adventures.
     
  11. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Walrus Premium Member

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    What exactly do Time Lords do with a TARDIS officially? We see a host of renegades roaming the space ways and timeline for good and evil, but what about those who follow the straight and narrow?
     
  12. Nightowl1701

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    Officially? You'd use it as a probe ship, to get up close and personal with certain historical events/stellar phenomenon. Just sit back in the console room and let the TARDIS (cloaked to match the setting) record everything/everyone around it. Then upload your recordings back to the Matrix, dematerialize with the parking brake off when no one's around, and move on.
     
  13. diankra

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    In Invasion of Time two Time Lords are off-world on authorised research, so presumably it does happen pretty routinely.
     
  14. JasonJ

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    There are also "Battle TARDISes" as well.. meant for war. I suspect there are a variety of types (beyond the actual TYPE XX designation) designed for different purposes.

    I doubt The Doctor had many adventures earlier than what we see on screen or are described, I mean, a Gallifreyan is still considered a "child" until a good 100 years old or better.. despite their physical appearance appropriating that of a 70 year old human. With all the knowledge that Time Lords possess, it likely takes a few lifetimes just to learn what you need to know.
     
  15. Andrew_Kearley

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    From evidence we've seen in various stories, the Doctor didn't have many "adventures" prior to stealing the Tardis, although he seems to have led an active and busy life, including scientific research, political activism, and ambassadorial work. Here he is at a diplomatic function:[​IMG]
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  16. Nightowl1701

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    Well, a short story on the BBC website I just learned about (Doctor Who and the Horror of Coal Hill) just locked Susan's age as of An Unearthly Child at 73 years old. So we're probably now looking at maybe 10-20 years (at most) of adventures between fleeing Gallifrey and Totter's Lane.
     
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  17. The Wormhole

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    She's 73 according to that story, but as there is no Doctor Who canon at all, future writers of any medium are free to acknowledge or ignore that as they see fit.
     
  18. David Weller

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    I’ve never been sure if Susan is actually the Doctor’s biological granddaughter.

    However, the Big Finish release The Beginning has her leaving Gallifrey with the Doctor.

    I forget how that scene in The Name of the Doctor played out as I haven’t seen it since 2013.
     
  19. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    She is.
    We see Susan entering the TARDIS just before the Clara splinter shows up to tell the Doctor he's about to make a mistake.