Did anyone else see this quote?

[Leandar]

Supposedly this guy on a Trek email list that I'm on found this quote on ST.com about Star Trek XI:

Fans may not be comfortable with some of Star Trek XI.
According to the article, "The movie subversively plays with Trek lore,
and those who know it. The opening sequence, for example, is an
emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure
to leave zealots howling 'Heresy!'" "The movie is about the act of
changing what you know, said Damon Lindelof. "

I've looked all over ST.com and have seen nothing about it. Has anyone else seen this? I thought I'd ask before issuing a rebuke to this guy on the email list. Thanks for your help.

 

[Indysolo]

That quote is found on page 30 of the new Entertainment Weekly.

Neil

 

[JD]

The part about the opening sequence comes from the EW article. But I was wondering if perhaps it is just going against something we've always assumed, not something we know is 100% true. It just seems weird that they would do something like that, after they've spent the past however many years talking about how they are staying true to the canon.
EDIT: Gah, I type to slowly.

 

[NiteTrek]

The part about the opening sequence comes from the EW article. But I was wondering if perhaps it is just going against something we've always assumed, not something we know is 100% true.

I think that what they are talking about is that the opening scene somehow changes the Trek timeline as we know it. That's why Spock and his time ship has to show up throughout the show and "repair" things until the end when everything is back to "normal."

Of course the proper ending would have older Spock dying (for the last time) in order to return things the way they were. I'm sure right before he dies, he'll tell the younger Kirk "I have been and always shall be your friend."

 

[M'Sharak]

Supposedly this guy on a Trek email list that I'm on found this quote on ST.com about Star Trek XI:

Fans may not be comfortable with some of Star Trek XI.
According to the article, "The movie subversively plays with Trek lore,
and those who know it. The opening sequence, for example, is an
emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure
to leave zealots howling 'Heresy!'" "The movie is about the act of
changing what you know, said Damon Lindelof. "

I've looked all over ST.com and have seen nothing about it. Has anyone else seen this? I thought I'd ask before issuing a rebuke to this guy on the email list. Thanks for your help.

It's quoted (repeatedly) in at least two other threads in this forum, as well as in the TrekToday News Items forum thread about the EW article. We've seen it, but I'm not sure that it tells us anything we didn't already know months ago.

 

[Brent]

The part about the opening sequence comes from the EW article. But I was wondering if perhaps it is just going against something we've always assumed, not something we know is 100% true.

I think that what they are talking about is that the opening scene somehow changes the Trek timeline as we know it. That's why Spock and his time ship has to show up throughout the show and "repair" things until the end when everything is back to "normal."

Of course the proper ending would have older Spock dying (for the last time) in order to return things the way they were. I'm sure right before he dies, he'll tell the younger Kirk "I have been and always shall be your friend."

What if things aren't set back to "normal" though, and now we have a new normal

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What if things aren't set back to "normal" though, and now we have a new normal

Well, then we have a new "normal."

 

[Brikar99]

What if things aren't set back to "normal" though, and now we have a new normal

Well, then we have a new "normal."

And a small percentage of the fanbase commits suicide.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I know what the heresy will be. Young Spock sees a Romulan's face (and more importantly, ears! )

On first blush, it seems heresy but it could be done in a way that oh-so-logical Spock isn't 100% sure what it means that some weird looking Rommie has pointy ears (like Vulcans are the galaxy's only pointy eared aliens?) and even if he suspects the truth, he can start blabbing something that incendiary without being absolutely sure.

So he keeps quiet, which is the logical thing to do. And years later, when his suspicions are confirmed, he is supsiciously quick to make the connection between Romulans and the old-time Vulcan dissenters rather than, say, wondering if the Romulans have used genetic engineering or plastic surgery or holograms or cloning or whatever to appear Vulcan and stir up trouble, or if their superficial similarities are a mere coincidence? Think of all the planets where the inhabitants look 100% human. Every time some gangster or ancient-Rome planet or some godlike aliens in human form act up, do Vulcans immediately blame Earthlings?

 

[T'Cal]

The part about the opening sequence comes from the EW article. But I was wondering if perhaps it is just going against something we've always assumed, not something we know is 100% true.

I think that what they are talking about is that the opening scene somehow changes the Trek timeline as we know it. That's why Spock and his time ship has to show up throughout the show and "repair" things until the end when everything is back to "normal."

Of course the proper ending would have older Spock dying (for the last time) in order to return things the way they were. I'm sure right before he dies, he'll tell the younger Kirk "I have been and always shall be your friend."

No, no, no. Spock tells Kirk, "I've always loved you!"

 

[Therin of Andor]

Well, then we have a new "normal."

And a small percentage of the fanbase commits suicide.

And we still have a new "normal". With lots of new fans to swell the depleted ranks.

 

[M'Sharak]

...

Of course the proper ending would have older Spock dying (for the last time) in order to return things the way they were. I'm sure right before he dies, he'll tell the younger Kirk "I have been and always shall be your friend."

No, no, no. Spock tells Kirk, "I've always loved you!"

^ The Slash Brothers?

 

[Therin of Andor]

I know what the heresy will be. Young Spock sees a Romulan's face (and more importantly, ears! )

Or, indeed, ear. Singular.

Nero seemed to be missing the point tip of his left ear in the first poster released of him.

 

[gastrof]

I know what the heresy will be. Young Spock sees a Romulan's face (and more importantly, ears! )

Or, indeed, ear. Singular.

Nero seemed to be missing the point tip of his left ear in the first poster released of him.

Maybe he's only half Romulan?

 

[gastrof]

Supposedly this guy on a Trek email list that I'm on found this quote on ST.com about Star Trek XI:

Fans may not be comfortable with some of Star Trek XI.
According to the article, "The movie subversively plays with Trek lore,
and those who know it. The opening sequence, for example, is an
emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure
to leave zealots howling 'Heresy!'" "The movie is about the act of
changing what you know, said Damon Lindelof. "

I've looked all over ST.com and have seen nothing about it. Has anyone else seen this? I thought I'd ask before issuing a rebuke to this guy on the email list. Thanks for your help.

Didn't we have some assurance early on from the insiders that this movie will in no way alter the timeline, and will simply be an "untold story" that's part of the history we already know?

I'm leaning towards what some have said in this thread, that any substantial change is the thing that Spock has to undo to restore the timeline to the one we know.

Even if the Enterprise bridge does end up looking like an original iMac with a thyroid problem.

 

[ancient]

I know what the heresy will be. Young Spock sees a Romulan's face (and more importantly, ears! )

Or, indeed, ear. Singular.

Nero seemed to be missing the point tip of his left ear in the first poster released of him.

That injury may happen during the film, like Khan's chest scar.

 

[Therin of Andor]

That injury may happen during the film, like Khan's chest scar.

Nero actually had another ear - on his forehead. He had it removed.

It was his final front ear.

 

[gastrof]

Nero actually had another ear - on his forehead. He had it removed.

It was his final front ear.

 

[Dale]

I know what the heresy will be. Young Spock sees a Romulan's face (and more importantly, ears! )

Or, indeed, ear. Singular.

Nero seemed to be missing the point tip of his left ear in the first poster released of him.

Nero, knowing that he must travel back in time to kill Young Kirk to achieve his nefarious ends, but not wishing to tip the Romulan hand to young Spock, shaves his head, tats his face up and tears off the tip of his left ear and, when communicating with the Enterprise, only does so in profile. Tidy. Clever.

OK, ridiculously contrived. But I tried.

 

[trekkerguy]

What if things aren't set back to "normal" though, and now we have a new normal

Well, then we have a new "normal."

And a small percentage of the fanbase commits suicide.

Best... line... ever.