Did 30 years of Star Trek not happen?

[Paul755]

For the in-show universe I think it does wipe everything away visually. It even kills some of the look of ENT when it comes to something like the Klingons.

But characters and situations, those probably happen the same as they always did/would.

 

[Nerys Myk]

For the in-show universe I think it does wipe everything away visually. It even kills some of the look of ENT when it comes to something like the Klingons.

But characters and situations, those probably happen the same as they always did/would.

There was no way they were going to do a show with designs from 1964 or 2001 for that matter.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

Most of Star Trek hasn't happened... yet. We'll just have to see how things shake out as time marches on.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Good luck with that.

 

[Galileo7]

I just treat Discovery as a different timeline within the Star Trek multiverse.

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[Paul755]

There was no way they were going to do a show with designs from 1964 or 2001 for that matter.

Maybe not but they could have found a better middle ground than what they went with.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Maybe not but they could have found a better middle ground than what they went with.

Possibly. Or they could have been much worse.

 

[Hey Missy]

They used pretty much the same makeup design for the Klingons from 1979 to 2005. It wasn't until 2012 when they suddenly decided that they needed to change their entire look (again), but not every other race.

 

[fireproof78]

They used pretty much the same makeup design for the Klingons from 1979 to 2005. It wasn't until 2012 when they suddenly decided that they needed to change their entire look (again), but not every other race.

That makes more sense than the monotone of other alien races. Especially if they are an intergalactic superpower.

As to the OP, yes it all happened. Enjoy.

 

[XCV330]

It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that everything from TOS through to VOY has been written out of existence and never happened. The makers of Star Trek discovery are insistent that STD is ‘prime timeline’ but the only way that is possible is if the Star Trek series from the 1960s up until before ENT are no longer canon.

I don’t know if the timeline was reset by First Contact or Archers temporal reset button or if the JJ verse is actually the new canon rather than ‘taking place in an alternate universe’ or some other event, but there is no way STD takes place in the same timeline as the cage.

So do we now have to accept that the Star Trek Universe has had the x- men/terminator treatment and we should one day expect the new Picard series that is being made to take place in the rebooted TNG era featuring Captain Benjamin Burnham and the staments type android Data?

Watch what you like, just don't expect the people who own the rights to freeze it in time for your benefit.
I think ST-V is a ridiculous story executed terribly in a bad movie. I just don't consider it. But I'm not going to make believe that it wasn't filmed and shown in theaters. No one holds a gun to my head and says "watch this pile of crap, it's canon"

So no, you don't have to accept anything. Moonves isn't going to pop out of the television, pull money out of your wallet and force you to stare at CBS All Access. He'd probably like to, but he can't. Maybe one day there will be a version of the show again you do like, but probably not.

In the meantime this won't be the last thread like this, and it certainly was far from the first.

 

[F. King Daniel]

For the in-show universe I think it does wipe everything away visually. It even kills some of the look of ENT when it comes to something like the Klingons.

But characters and situations, those probably happen the same as they always did/would.

Disco directly references "Broken Bow" and "In a Mirror, Darkly" but totally ignores "Affliction" and "Divergent". Imagine how poor Voq would feel if someone told him there was an injection of augment-modified flu that'd do the same thing all his traumatic surgeries did

 

[JesterFace]

No matter how much the writers of Discovery try to change the timelines, there's no way they'll make my Star Trek DVDs disappear...

 

[WraithDukat]

Without meaning to be funny if it means we're getting new Trek I don't care (much).

 

[Attentiveluke]

Without meaning to be funny if it means we're getting new Trek I don't care (much).

I would rather have no Star Trek than bad Star Trek. The only reason I gave STD a chance was because it has Star Trek in the title. Discovery is so far removed from prime Trek it may as well be a Lexx or andromeda spin-off and feed off their loyal fans cash.

 

[Forbin]

Of course there are 30 years that didn't happen. There's a block from 2200 to 2230 that's never been touched upon.

And 2161 to 2233? Who knows anything about that?

Right? Ya think they could make a series about, say, the decades between the 1701-B and the 1701-D eras, where it's wide open continuity-wise? Noooooooooo, they gotta keep giving us PREquels. What the hell?

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

Right? Ya think they could make a series about, say, the decades between the 1701-B and the 1701-D eras, where it's wide open continuity-wise? Noooooooooo, they gotta keep giving us PREquels. What the hell?

Unless it is set before ENT, everything is a prequel. If you want to get really technical, All Good Things traveled back in time to the formation of the universe, so....

 

[1001001]

It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that everything from TOS through to VOY has been written out of existence and never happened. The makers of Star Trek discovery are insistent that STD is ‘prime timeline’ but the only way that is possible is if the Star Trek series from the 1960s up until before ENT are no longer canon.

I don’t know if the timeline was reset by First Contact or Archers temporal reset button or if the JJ verse is actually the new canon rather than ‘taking place in an alternate universe’ or some other event, but there is no way STD takes place in the same timeline as the cage.

So do we now have to accept that the Star Trek Universe has had the x- men/terminator treatment and we should one day expect the new Picard series that is being made to take place in the rebooted TNG era featuring Captain Benjamin Burnham and the staments type android Data?

Oh, joy. This again.

This topic is being discussed to death respectfully here:

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/do-...e-in-the-prime-timeline-at-this-point.292669/