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Day of the Dove question

dillon3001

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I've always wondered what Kirk and co. did with the 40 some odd Klingons still left on the Enterprise after the alien entity left the ship. Would the Klingons try to take over the ship again? I've always speculated that they were probably taken to a Starbase where they got passage back to Klingon territory, and the goodwill gained by both sides after this incident helped overall relations between the UFP and the Klingon Empire.

I would be interested in hearing other peoples takes on what might have happened.
 
In the original script, Scotty mass-transports them onto a nearby Tribble ship, then says, "They'll be nay more Klutter around here sir" to Kirk.

Unfortunately, that ending was cut during post-production. :)
 
I always figured they were taken to a Federation starbase (like the Romulan Commander in The Enterprise Incident) to await transport back to the Klingon Empire. After all, the Klingons were lured by a false signal by the alien and emotional manipulated just like the Enterprise crew. It wasn't actually a real act of aggression plotted by the Klingons (but they probably wouldn't hesitate to claim victory if they had won along the way!)>
 
You gotta wonder just how pissed off Kang probably was at the end of this incident.

Sure, the Enterprise has 400 crew members sealed off by emergency bulkheads (and a few stabbed later) but presumably virtually all of the Enterprise crew survived.

But virtually all of Kangs crew were killed. He refers either (I couldn't understand him well) to "a hundred of my crew dead" or "four hundred of my crew dead".

Even if the deaths of his crew were just illusions projected by the entity, all of those Klingons certainly died when the Enterprise vaporized the Klingon cruiser (truly one of the great effects shots of all time).
 
They got sent to Rura Penthe after being returned to the Klingon Empire due to their failure to beat Kirk and the Enterprise.
 
Well, I guess it wasn't bad for the cash strapped third season, but let's not get carried away.

Watch it in slow motion to see the real brilliance of the scene.

It has occurred to me that Kirk and Kang would have to have pulled something for Kang to be able to return to the empire without him facing disgrace and death.

After all, Kang did lose his ship and most of his crew, and I doubt that the Klingon Defense Forces would accept "glowing creature feeding on emotions" did that.

Especially when Kangs only evidence was the word of Kirk, a long time enemy of the empire.

I would say that Kirk allowed Kang and his surviving crew to "steal" a couple of Enterprise shuttles and make a daring dash across the border. Perhaps with the Enterprise in hot pursuit, firing at them as they fled.

A daring escape from the Enterprise captained by the famous Kirk would enable Kang and his survivors to return to the empire with honor.
 
Well, I guess it wasn't bad for the cash strapped third season, but let's not get carried away.

Watch it in slow motion to see the real brilliance of the scene.

It has occurred to me that Kirk and Kang would have to have pulled something for Kang to be able to return to the empire without him facing disgrace and death.

After all, Kang did lose his ship and most of his crew, and I doubt that the Klingon Defense Forces would accept "glowing creature feeding on emotions" did that.

Especially when Kangs only evidence was the word of Kirk, a long time enemy of the empire.

I would say that Kirk allowed Kang and his surviving crew to "steal" a couple of Enterprise shuttles and make a daring dash across the border. Perhaps with the Enterprise in hot pursuit, firing at them as they fled.

A daring escape from the Enterprise captained by the famous Kirk would enable Kang and his survivors to return to the empire with honor.


Damn it! I wanna watch that episode!
 
Well, we only know that Kang was in command of another Klingon battle cruiser 25 years later (VOY: "Flashback") and that he was still a highly respected member of his race in the 24th century (DS9: "Blood Oath").

However, he seemed to have undergone cranial reconstruction between "Day of the Dove" and "Flashback" (ENT: "Affliction"). ;)
 
It has occurred to me that Kirk and Kang would have to have pulled something for Kang to be able to return to the empire without him facing disgrace and death.

After all, Kang did lose his ship and most of his crew, and I doubt that the Klingon Defense Forces would accept "glowing creature feeding on emotions" did that.

Especially when Kangs only evidence was the word of Kirk, a long time enemy of the empire.

I don't think so. Kang's surviving crewmembers were also witnesses. They could testify that it was only (*)'s fault for forcing them to do battle.
 
But the Klingon process could start from deciding that Kang had failed in his duty, and proceed to dismissing anybody who defended Kang because such yes-men would be derelict in their own duty of usurping their failed leader.

Kang and his men (and women) would have to find a way to put a positive spin to the adventure if they wanted to survive their homecoming. Perhaps it would suffice that Kang had high societal status (as DS9 later suggests) and could afford a blunder or three. Or perhaps Kang would be hailed for upholding the Organian Peace Treaty because it was politically more advantageous to the Empire at that time than traditional warmongering would have been.

Alternately, perhaps Kang did suffer the consequences, and got a major blow to his career, but fought his way back to the top by the time of DS9? He did have command of a battle cruiser in "Flashback", at which time he had gained his ridges, so perhaps his rehabilitation had been a quick affair in the two intervening decades.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Imagine how Starfleet would've reacted if it had been the Enterprise destroyed and 400 crewman dead. With Kirk making it back with himself and less than forty crewman.

And blamed this on some weird lifeform that no one has ever encountered before and he has no evidence for whatsoever.

Kirk would never have commanded a starship again.

Remember, courtmartial for a Captain losing his ship was standard procedure for Starfleet. They courtmartialed Picard for losing Stargazer when it was clearly a case of surprise attack and Picard had to pull a brilliant move just get out with their lives.
 
Kirk was actually a screw up. "Star Trek" is just the excuses he came up with to cover his ass. ;)
 
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