For five years though? It just feels silly.
Dating Picard
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For five years though? It just feels silly.
Eh, I can accept it may have been so long since Picard last saw Sydney he doesn't instantly recognize her regardless of how recently he'd been in contact with Geordi. I mean, in Generations, it's only been a few months since Kirk last saw Hikaru Sulu, yet Kirk didn't even know who Demora was.
He knew who she was, he just hadn't seen her in 12 years so he didn't recognize her all grown up.
Did he? When I wrote the post, I was thinking about the comment "when did Sulu find time for a family?"
Yes, explicitly.
Which was not a request for information, but a rhetorical question expressing surprise that Sulu was able to manage it.
It wasn't "explicitly" stated to be 2401 - only the labels on the bottles of wine suggested that. The dialogue from Rios when he was in ICE jail actually said he was from the year 2400, which I would suggest is more explicit that the wine bottles.
One thing that occurred to me the other was that for Geordi's daughters to be old enough to be where they are now, they would need to have been born before Star Trek Nemesis.
Yes, 21 is a feasible age for them to have left the Academy and be ensigns. However, unless they are twins, one of them would have to be almost a year older, and since Nemesis is set in November 2379 (per the stardate) then it doesn't leave much wiggle room. Geordi would at the very least have had to have been with/married to their mother (and her possibly be pregnant) during Nemesis.
Wonder who she is since we still don't know her name.
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To be precise, as you pointed out last month, Rios said the Stargazer was from the year 2400, not necessarily that he was. You were arguing that he was probably referring to the time he came from rather than the ship's launch date, but it's ambiguous. Also, people have a tendency to round numbers off, so it's never absolutely guaranteed that a round number in spoken dialogue is exact rather than approximate (unless the speaker is someone known for precision, like Spock or Data).
Granted, I'm the first to say that writing appearing only on signage or labels isn't necessarily canonically binding. So I concede that season 2 can be retroactively presumed to take place in 2400 (heck, I've already grudgingly made that revision in my own chronology document). But the fact that they put 2401 on the labels is further evidence, along with the online info text saying that the Titan-A was launched in 2402, that somewhere along the line (possibly after Ed Speleers and Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut were cast), the producers decided to retcon the dating and set things earlier than originally intended. And I'm very curious about why they decided to change it despite the chronology problems it creates, so I wish someone from the production would explain the decision.
In some ways it does seem like they originally planned a later dating for Season Two, but then when they say that Frontier Day is the 250th anniversary of the launch of the NX-01, then it couldn't possibly have been any other year they had in mind.
It's all a bit of a mess. I'd have much preferred a slightly later setting, a few years after Season Two.
It's like Sarah-Jane Smith saying she was "from 1980" and various attempts to retcon it to reconcile with Mawdryn Undead. "Maybe she was rounding up and really meant 1975" was always an unsatisfactory solution.
Obviously none of us can time travel, so there's no real world precedent. Perhaps he's rounding down, but why? It makes no difference. If he was being circumspect he might say "I'm from the 25th century". So yes, let's ignore the wine label.
Obviously none of us can time travel, so there's no real world precedent. Perhaps he's rounding down, but why? It makes no difference. If he was being circumspect he might say "I'm from the 25th century". So yes, let's ignore the wine label.
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Exactly this! It's the UNIT dating controversy all over again...
I don't think Trek's timeline is as bad as Dr. Who's UNIT problems yet. It can still fit if everyone is a super genius and do things in 24 hours like Jack Bauer. The Unit dating issue can't even be fixed by those explanations.
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