Daleks - Invasion Earth 2150 AD on TCM tonight!
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Thanks! Just set the DVR to record it.
Have seen the dvd in my local dvd store,thinking about getting it.
Dag nab it, my DVR didn't record it.
Well if you missed it, heres a nicely done fan trailer.
Which I suspect is a lot better than the actual movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHCwzIgEs8
Which I suspect is a lot better than the actual movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHCwzIgEs8
Darn! Missed it... IMHO, this is the better of the two Cushing movies (although I know it didn't do nearly as well as the first in the theatres back in the day).
I recently caught "Dalek Mania" on Netflix Instant and enjoyed it quite a bit. It's an older documentary about the making of the two Cushing movies and the 60s obsession with Daleks in general, with lots of cast interviews and behind the scenes stuff. For someone like me who didn't know much about the history behind the movies, it was quite enlightening.
I recently caught "Dalek Mania" on Netflix Instant and enjoyed it quite a bit. It's an older documentary about the making of the two Cushing movies and the 60s obsession with Daleks in general, with lots of cast interviews and behind the scenes stuff. For someone like me who didn't know much about the history behind the movies, it was quite enlightening.
Courage had nothing to do with it. It was 1965 and there were no plans for Doctor Who to ever be broadcast in the US, so the powers that be wanted to have the Daleks stories retold for US audiences in hopes of sparking the merchandising bonanza known as Dalekmania overseas. A third movie based on The Chase was planned but Dalek Invasion Earth didn't do very well at the American box office, so the idea was dropped. I doubt they'd ever have bothered to do "original" stories, unless an Americanized TV series was produced, and Terry Nation attempted to do just that with The Destroyers but it didn't sell.
Alex
Nope. He's a different character with a different continuity.
In the two movies Peter Cushing plays a human eccentric tinkerer literally named Dr. Who (upon meeting new people he'd say, "I am Dr. Who.") rather than a secretive human looking alien from another time and planet who only identifies himself by a title.
Still, it was interesting to see Cushing play an approachable, grandfatherly role and I too enjoy the two movies.
Sincerely,
Bill
Like I said in the other thread on the 2 Cushing movies, in the 2nd movie, they don't mention he's a Human at all, so I'd like to think he's a slightly younger version of #1.
And the younger Susan and a niece we didn't see in An Unearthly Child could be used to support this mad theory.
And the younger Susan and a niece we didn't see in An Unearthly Child could be used to support this mad theory.
But Cushing still introduces himself in the second film as, I am Dr. Who," rather than "I am the Doctor," doesn't he?
Of course, since the Chameleon Arch (not to be confused with the Chameleon Circuit) was introduced in "Family of Blood", a lot more possibilities are open.
Sincerely,
Bill
Of course, since the Chameleon Arch (not to be confused with the Chameleon Circuit) was introduced in "Family of Blood", a lot more possibilities are open.
Sincerely,
Bill
Then how come #1 didn't recognize the Daleks when he met them on Skaro and relived virtually the same experiences? And how could the Doctor experience two variant versions of the same two adventures? And how come #1 couldn't steer his ship called "the TARDIS" when Dr. Who had precise and perfect control over his ship called "Tardis"?
Why not just treat the movies as what they are, alternate interpretations of a fictional creation?
At the time Peter Cushing did the two films, the William Hartnell TV Doctor had not yet been identified as an alien from another world. Gallifrey and the whole Time Lords concept did not come to bear until post-1969. The Cushing movies are good enough to stand on their own, or to be shoehorned into series continuity especially the second which is my personal favorite.
Yes, he had. That world and his species hadn't been named yet, but he and Susan were clearly portrayed as aliens from the get-go. Heck, the first serial was named "An Unearthly Child." And here's some of the Doctor's dialogue from that very first episode:
http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/1-1.htm
And then in "The Sensorites" near the end of the first season, Susan said:
Okay fair point you are right, I knew someone would correct me. But there are still ways to fit Cushing into Who canon without jeapordising either him or Hartnell, surely.
So the Daleks invade Earth twice just a couple of decades apart, and events play out the same way both times?
I just don't see any reason to treat two distinct versions of the same story as both existing in a single canon. The movies Thor and Captain America don't exist in the same canon as Marvel Comics; they're a separate continuity, an adaptation of the originals into a new form. And there's nothing wrong with that. Adaptation and interpretation are basic aspects of human creativity. And it can be a lot of fun to see a story told in a different, alternative way. Yes, sometimes it can also be fun to find ways to fit different continuities together, but it shouldn't be treated as a necessity, and it can be taken too far.
For what it's worth, though, I gather it's been proposed in an unofficial Who tie-in that the Cushing movies were stories written by Barbara Wright as fictionalized adaptations of her adventures with the Doctor.
The Barbara Wright memories proposal is excactly the kind of fitting in I was thinking, thanks for your time. You are of course right and I am so horribly wrong but I shall survive.
