Criminal Charges for Picard

[noknowes]

Another really bad point for First Contact is the criminal actions of Picard by NOT giving the coordinates of the vulnerable point of the Borg Cube while Star Fleet was battling it and instead just waffling to himself and indulging in self pity to himself in his ready room.

In fact he withheld important information which could have saved lives and ships.

By keeping it to himself his actions make him guilty of gross negligence and complicit in the deaths of Star Fleet crew and loss of ships.

Instead he went on a self promotion glory quest of disobeying orders and made himself look like a hero by arriving at the last minute and destroying the bork cube himself after lives and ships had been lost when instead he could have radioed that information ahead as he could hear the battle audio light years away.

He should have been stripped and arrested.

Discuss.

 

[Bones2]

Was it not only when he was hearing Borg chatter near the cube that he was aware of the weak spot?

 

[cultcross]

I got the impression he only became aware of the weak spot when in close proximity to the Borg and he could hear their 'thoughts' - presumably he overheard the Borg thinking 'Oh shit, hope they don't hit <co-ordinates>' and then targeted everyone's weapons on that spot.

 

[votd]

I got the impression he only became aware of the weak spot when in close proximity to the Borg and he could hear their 'thoughts' - presumably he overheard the Borg thinking 'Oh shit, hope they don't hit <co-ordinates>' and then targeted everyone's weapons on that spot.

"6 of 13 - stand in the alcove in the corner and don't think of an orange penguin, or the specific co-ordinates of our most vulnerable area."

 

[Bosch571]

Or it isn’t a general weak spot, but only became one after the damage that was already inflicted on the cube. He asked for a damage report on the cube and heard some borg talk before he ordered the strike, so it might not be a general way to destroy a cube, just something that was possible in this specific circumstance.

 

[Crewman47]

While you're at it why don't you charge Picard for travelling back in time and destroying a Borg sphere over Earth allowing debris and three Borg drones to survive impact and letting Enterprise happen.

Kidding of course as I love Enterprise.

 

[Newski]

Nobody said the movie was perfect.

We can give many explainations that will never satisfy some, but might work for others.... I always assumed that he wanted to keep the information closely guarded, so they could actually use it... If everyone knew, well, one ship goes and so does the only major tactical advantage the Federation has.

Then I realized there are many flaws in that explaination, too. But I'm still going to go with it. After all, Khan and Chekov should never had known eachother. Anyone want to follow that up with another major error or omission from a Trek film? We got eleven to chose from, and most of them have problems.

 

[LeadHead]

If Picard knew that would be a weak spot, he would have told Starfleet in a second. Once he could hear the Borg and Starfleet had pounded the ship enough to open up a weak spot, he used it. No criminal charges for that.

Now, as for speeding while driving the Argo... :P

 

[RyuRoots]

noknowes, did you actually watch the movie or is this just a lame trolling attempt? See:

he only became aware of the weak spot when in close proximity to the Borg and he could hear their 'thoughts'

 

[Newski]

If Picard knew that would be a weak spot, he would have told Starfleet in a second. Once he could hear the Borg and Starfleet had pounded the ship enough to open up a weak spot, he used it. No criminal charges for that.

Now, as for speeding while driving the Argo... :P

Point is its unimportant and people think too much.

 

[noknowes]

. :P

Point is its unimportant and people think too much.

I recommend you watch the film called "Insignificance" by By Nicholas Roeg which starred Albert Einstein and Marylin Monroe.

There is a segment about thinking which may reveal to you the importance of thinking.

 

[Timo]

^

As regards the original issue, it was made clear in this movie and elsewhere that the Borg Cubes don't have weak spots. So Picard couldn't have reported on one!

What Picard could report on, after beginning to hear the Borg voices, was the exact moment a specific place in the Cube would become more important than other places, due to the constant rerouting of internal functions that goes on in a Cube. But he'd have to wait for that moment, even if it meant letting half a dozen starship be blown to bits in the meantime.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[SeerSGB]

For some reason, I've always thought the Borg played Picard a bit in that scene. "Ahh, Locutus is here, let's game him and we'll launch our timesphere while they're diverted to the "weak spot", a-ha!"

 

[Timo]

I've always thought the Borg played Picard throughout the movie.

I mean, the odds of a Borg failure there would be more or less zero. They had time travel, so they could try again and again until they succeeded. Since the movie concluded without another attempt being made, one thus thinks the Borg got exactly what they wanted... Which is no wonder when they had an inside man.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[adamisme]

i think if you brought up Picard on criminal charges for the bits with the Borg, there are probably bits where you could bring the whole TNG crew up on charges for some reason or other