Could we as fan send a open letter to CBS executive to make Star Trek better

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Captain Clark, May 7, 2020.

  1. Captain Clark

    Captain Clark Ensign Red Shirt

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    I feel like that Star Trek Show runner's need to stay consistent in technology (holographic displays and how impractical they are) and the overall optimistic tone of trek in the 90s. Also trying to stay in continuity (all the tribble stuff in that short trek for example) and the technology of the time period in trek lore. basically i was wondering if us as fans could try to contact Alex Kurtzman and all that stuff to ask them to be a little more consistent in technology and the overall tone of trek of not being dark and negitive. Of it being positive and uplifting. I feel like you can keep a show dark and still have it be good (DS9) but you need to balance it out with positive stuff. Thank you
     
  2. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I'm sure they are aware of these concerns and decided to do their thing, which is totally valid
     
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  4. SITZKRIEG!

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    You're free to do what you feel is necessary but the creators already know and don't care. Hopefully the third time will be the charm with the rumored upcoming Pike show.
     
  5. Bad Thoughts

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    Do what you want. I won't help out.
     
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  6. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'd think in light of seeing anything Star Wars or Star Trek in recent times, it would be evident that longstanding fan satisfaction is not the priority
     
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  7. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    They had a survey after Disco S1, they should do another one for PIC and Disco S2
     
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  9. Dukhat

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    The last thing CBS should do is listen to what fans want, because no two fans will want the same thing.
     
  10. MrPicard

    MrPicard Jean-Luc's Loving Husband Fleet Captain

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    This. Ask ten Star Trek fans what they want out of Star Trek and you'll get ten different answers. CBS can't please everyone, no matter what they do. If they make an action-based series with lots of pew pew and CGI ships, people will complain about there not being enough Inner Light stories. If they make a show about Inner Light stories, people will complain about there not being any pew pew battles. If they try to combine pew pew and Inner Light stories, people will complain about things not making any sense and not fitting together. If they ditch both ideas and come up with something new, people will complain that "this isn't Star Trek anymore".

    So yeah. Last thing I'd do if I were in charge of CBS would be to listen to fans who approach me with an attitude of "I will explain to you how you can make better Star Trek". I would take some valid concerns into account, yes, but I would still do my own thing in the end.
     
  11. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The only way CBS would listen is if not enough people were paying for subscriptions or if viewing figures were were too low to justify the expense of making them, it all comes down to money, they won't much care about what fans think.

    If you want a nice, optimistic and hopeful Trek-style successor, I'd suggest The Orville.
     
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    Which would be criticized as bringing nothing new to the franchise and aping TNG if it was "Star Trek: Orville".
     
  13. Lord Garth

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    I like Today's Trek. But, if that's what we're "supposed" to hate, then... I don't want '60s or '90s Trek.

    I want '80s Trek. They had better movies. And on the TV front, at least Leonard Miazlish is dead now, so he can't fuck up the scripts anymore. And we get Ron Jones music.
     
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  14. Qonundrum

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    One could. But it's up to them if they want to take anything into account or to make the show the way they want to.

    And I'd rather see them take the show in a new direction but keeping core themes. The 60s were done, the 80s kept some of the 60s but still moved on and did their own thing. Ditto for the 90s. There's stuff to like and dislike from all these eras.
     
  15. Qonundrum

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    "The Orville" did bring in some of the writers and producers of TNG, but at the same time they did go in new dimensions directions, in ways TNG did not go. :D But a couple episodes are too much of a knockoff (e.g. the colony inside an asteroid) And Orville, like Star Wars, did take from other franchises and styles and successfully made their own...

    It's also technically a sci-fi parody, though since then it got a lot more serious undertones (Season 2). It's become its own show. TNG never did the "species forcing sex changes and hates heterosexuality" shtick... Data may have had a few too many siblings after a while to remain credible but thankfully only one of them was an emotionally psychopathic genocidal maniac and not the lot of them... Isaac was more like the Cylons but with a hint of Data as a ruse, and consistently without any emotions of any sort. So they knew from the get-go how Isaac would be, but I digress..

    Also, speaking of aping, DSC was pretty quick to bring in Mudd and the Mirror Universe, having the lead character be the best thing ever (rather like Kirk, but if anything ramped up a bit), and so on..... the new things it brought to the table -- well, we know Spock would not be a murderer as such and everything else anyone could think about - well that's just a super-dee-duper SECTION 31 thing (in yet another example of a pointless prequel mimicking... ) (On edit: yeah, it's a prequel but those tend to have little creativity to begin with, and trying to answer questions that were never asked but end up causing more questions for no reason...)

    Then they saw how well Orville was doing so they moved toward silliness. Tilly being the prime example of her going toward a caricatured extreme... The tv trope Flanderization usually takes a bit more time...

    That said, I have posted clips of good scenes before... as with most things, there's good or bad. Even bad episodes can have good scenes and good episodes can have bad scenes. It's an entire spectrum.


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    Or if the longstanding fans don't care they don't care. Some have and to varying extents. Which is strange given how PIC, told to us by its producers that it's not a sequel, surely is striving really hard to be one. And sequels are generally aimed more at fans than newbies, reintroducing old characters, you name it. (But keeping in mind TWOK is a sequel to TMP, which was a sequel of TOS and none of those three are the identical tone; styles and formats will be tweaked or shifted. So there's more going on to what makes a show work or not...)
     
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  16. F. King Daniel

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    Let's not. Because truth is, if you liked the show you'd forgive all those quibbles just like you do all the quibbly nitpicks in the Treks you do like.

    Remember also the new shows are arc based. Picard for example is in a dark place at the start of his new show, but by the last episode he's found himself and a purpose again.
     
  17. BillJ

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    Not been a fan of the new direction, but any letters should be filed in the recycle bin by CBS. Fans being in charge is why we’re at where we are at now.
     
  18. Doom Shepherd

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    Nope. There’s a reason that the film considered “best” by Star Trek fandom was directed by a non-fan. (And triggered death threats from “fans” during its production.)

    fan-dumb.
     
  19. Angry Fanboy

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    Yes we could.

    They won't read it though.
     
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  20. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Commodore Commodore

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    The best solution is simply to watch something that’s better than Star Trek.
     
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