Could the Kull Warriors take on the Replicators?

[ReadyAndWilling]

So I was thinking on the bus on the way home from work.

Was there ever a scene where the Kull Warriors went to battle with the Replicators?

So we know the Kull Warriors were almost unstoppable. Conventional weapons were ineffective. Automatic weapons, armor piercing, heavy duty machine guns, even C4 did barely anything to slow them down. Unlike most of the Jaffa, we also know they were unwavering in their devotion to Anubis and were unafraid of anything. Engaging the Replicators would have been no problem to them mentally.

We saw the Replicators fall to pieces from mere P-90 fire while the Kull Warriors were able to keep walking through P-90 fire like they were rain drops.

The only problem is the Replicators seemed to be immune to Staff Blasts and the Zat Gun. Presumably, the same technology is used by the Kull. But couldn't the Kull melee the Replicators? Imagine the Kull Warriors picking up the Replicators and just tearing them into little pieces of Lego.

I dunno, it just seems hollow that I never saw these colossal warriors of the universe engage in battle.

 

[PsychoPere]

Better question: Do you plan on revisiting this thread to provide your source for the alleged quote, or to at least admit you attributed a statement to Brad Wright that he never made?

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

I've been searching for the direct quote for a while now.

There's no need to start trolling here, bro. If you had a problem with me, why didn't you just private message me? You clearly just wanted some attention so you brought it into this thread.

 

[The Wormhole]

Could the Kull Warriors take on the Replicators?

No. Ba'al said as much in the Reckoning two parter. After all the Kulls fire energy weapons, which the Replicators are immune to. With the exception of O'Neill's Ancient gun, and the ARGs in Atlantis.

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

But can't they just melee them and take them out that way?

I was re-watching evolution pt2 and the Kull was walking through c4 blasts and heavy machine gun fire like it was nothing. not even a scratch

 

[David cgc]

I'm not sure they ever demonstrated a particularly superior physical strength. Breaking down walls with their bare hands or anything like that. And it'd take a lot of force to shatter a replicator with a punch, or to rip one to pieces by hand. And it wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as shooting them. They'd probably eventually get eaten, and that'd be that.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

^Actually, one did take something like half an hour to collapse when subjected to vacuum, which is how SG-1 was able to capture it. Most humans would last about...well, a lot less than that. Still not the same as breaking replicators apart by hand and even if they could, I have a hard time imagining them crushing each individual block. If they didn't, the replicators would still reform.

Replicators would eat them, yes.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I'm not sure they ever demonstrated a particularly superior physical strength. Breaking down walls with their bare hands or anything like that. And it'd take a lot of force to shatter a replicator with a punch, or to rip one to pieces by hand. And it wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as shooting them. They'd probably eventually get eaten, and that'd be that.

^Actually, one did take something like half an hour to collapse when subjected to vacuum, which is how SG-1 was able to capture it. Most humans would last about...well, a lot less than that. Still not the same as breaking replicators apart by hand and even if they could, I have a hard time imagining them crushing each individual block. If they didn't, the replicators would still reform.

Replicators would eat them, yes.

Or they would get turned into replicator meat puppets.

 

[Kai Winn]

But can't they just melee them and take them out that way?

I was re-watching evolution pt2 and the Kull was walking through c4 blasts and heavy machine gun fire like it was nothing. not even a scratch

that was a bit of fantasy. no matter how invulnerable they are, they are subject to laws of physics, and they didn't look like weighing 1,000 tons. or did they have force fields? don't remember. i loved the scene where apophis's ship was crashing into a planet, he's grazy eyed staring at it, and the replicators walking up and down his forcefield.

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

But can't they just melee them and take them out that way?

I was re-watching evolution pt2 and the Kull was walking through c4 blasts and heavy machine gun fire like it was nothing. not even a scratch

that was a bit of fantasy. no matter how invulnerable they are, they are subject to laws of physics, and they didn't look like weighing 1,000 tons. or did they have force fields? don't remember. i loved the scene where apophis's ship was crashing into a planet, he's grazy eyed staring at it, and the replicators walking up and down his forcefield.

yea, i didn't really get that either. their armor absorbed energy weapons. how can they resist c4?

then again, their muscles were supremely enhanced. maybe that's how they could absorb the c4 damage. just gives more credence to my theory of just clubbing the replicators on the head. if they can generate enough force then they'd smash them into little pieces, the same way firearms do.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

But can't they just melee them and take them out that way?

I was re-watching evolution pt2 and the Kull was walking through c4 blasts and heavy machine gun fire like it was nothing. not even a scratch

that was a bit of fantasy. no matter how invulnerable they are, they are subject to laws of physics, and they didn't look like weighing 1,000 tons. or did they have force fields? don't remember. i loved the scene where apophis's ship was crashing into a planet, he's grazy eyed staring at it, and the replicators walking up and down his forcefield.

I don't think they had forcefields, it was the material their armor was made of that absorbed energy. Maybe it worked the same way as the early Goa'uld shields and could stop bullets but not slower moving projectiles like knives or darts. That might explain why the C4 and the Claymores didn't kill it, but they should have at least moved it or knocked it over, since like you mentioned the laws of physics still apply.

I like that moment with Apophis too, he realizes along with the audience that he's not coming back again.

Or they would get turned into replicator meat puppets.

Right, I forgot about that scene in Ark of Truth...that's a scary thought.

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

Did they ever mention forcefields? I don't remember that.

 

[Silvercrest]

I like that moment with Apophis too, he realizes along with the audience that he's not coming back again.

Meh, he's had better deaths. Neither the team nor the audience actually saw him die. And we didn't see anything that would have kept him from ringing down to the surface before the impact. The team should have operated under the assumption he was still alive.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

^I disagree. His ship plowed into the planet at ridiculous speed and he was incinerated. He's in a ship full of replicators, he has nowhere to go...he was screwed, and he knew it.

 

[Silvercrest]

True, but the team didn't know it. All they know is that they evacuated a ship that he was still on board, and it was destroyed a short time later. Exact same situation as "Serpent's Lair", as a matter of fact. This time they should not have assumed he was dead that easily.

 

[The Wormhole]

I remember the first time I saw that episode. Though the ship did ram the planet and there was a huge ass explosion, I refused to believe Apophis was dead. Of course, at this point, it's been nine years since the episode aired, and aside from hallucinations and alternate timelines, Apophis hasn't returned. I think we have have to acknowledge the possibility that he did die.

 

[Jax]

But can't they just melee them and take them out that way?

I was re-watching evolution pt2 and the Kull was walking through c4 blasts and heavy machine gun fire like it was nothing. not even a scratch

Replicators could defeat Asgard Tech, so they would have little trouble with slow moving warriors.

Melee really? a swarm of reps would end any kull warrior very quickly

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

^Yeah, I'm not sure the Kull armor would be effective against Super Acid Spit.

True, but the team didn't know it. All they know is that they evacuated a ship that he was still on board, and it was destroyed a short time later. Exact same situation as "Serpent's Lair", as a matter of fact. This time they should not have assumed he was dead that easily.

It's a fair cop! I see what you're saying now. For a while Apophis refused to die, it was rather amusing.

 

[Silvercrest]

And I agree: Replicators for the win. It would just take longer.

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

But can't they just melee them and take them out that way?

I was re-watching evolution pt2 and the Kull was walking through c4 blasts and heavy machine gun fire like it was nothing. not even a scratch

Replicators could defeat Asgard Tech, so they would have little trouble with slow moving warriors.

Melee really? a swarm of reps would end any kull warrior very quickly

Replicators could defeat Asgard Tech, but they were beat up by Earth weapons.

Why couldn't the Kull do the same? They would just hit them over the head and maybe generate as much force as a gun.