Cornwell's Specific Duties?

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  1. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    Assuming that she has specific responsibilities within the admiralty...what, exactly, are they?

    Same applies for her peers-in-rank, if you want to extend the discussion that far.
     
  2. saddestmoon

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    No idea what an ‘admiral’ role in Trek does, beyond my very general assumption that they manage some aspect of fleet command?

    Cromwell’s background is medical / surgical within Disco lore (if I’m not mistaken) so perhaps that helps inform her role as Admiral also?

    :shrug:
     
  3. Cyrus

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    She is the admiral in charge of section 31
     
  4. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    So your argument would be "Special Operations Command", Cyrus?
     
  5. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Kang, now with ridges Premium Member

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    Psy-Ops. Her background is in psychology.
     
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  6. urbandk

    urbandk Commodore Commodore

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    I'd still take even odds that she ends up being Lethe.
     
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  7. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Being an admiral, doing admiral stuff, occasionally getting into conflict with our heroes
     
  8. Vger23

    Vger23 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Specific Duties Include:

    1. Having sex with Lorca
    2. Getting captured by Klingons
    3. Making friends with/yelling with L'Rell
    4. Vaporizing bowls of fortune cookies
    5. Name-dropping Archer
    6. Contemplating genocide
    7. Rewarding and recognizing officers who oppose genocide
    8. Hanging with 31
     
  9. Succubint

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    What I like about her, though, is she's not perfect, but she's also not cartoon evil. Her role as antagonist is extremely soft in the larger scheme of things. More often than not she's actually an ally, albeit an flawed one.

    THIS is how you write complex female characters. Sometimes badass, sometimes vulnerable, sometimes principled, sometimes culpable of extremely bad decision-making in the face of almost certain annihilation. I love how resilient she is. I also love that she makes mistakes and sometimes takes a while to come around to the right approach.

    If she goes full villain/antagonist like so many Admirals seem to do, so be it, but she's one of the most fleshed out Admirals we've ever had. And I appreciate that.

    I hope she continues on DISCO for a very long time. Jayne Brook is bringing it with her portrayal.
     
  10. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Commodore Commodore

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    She's a Vice Admiral, and based on her activities in Season 1, I'd say she was a fleet commander (a la Admiral Ross) with heavy oversight of Klingon War operations.

    We don't know her exact post (Starbase 1, possibly, or even Starfleet HQ), but we see her perform several duties:
    1. Ability to issue orders for Discovery
    2. Ability to negotiate with Klingons for a settlement (that should really above her paygrade)
    3. Presides over the handing out of the Medals of Honor (that should be the President's job)
    4. Ability to order Section 31 around.

    Why they let a psychiatrist with no command experience do all this is supposed to be a statement on Starfleet's unpreparedness for War.
     
  11. Cyrus

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    What was the reasoning behind that thoery? Lethe was such a minor character that I had to look it up, definitely didn't remember her.
     
  12. drt

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    I guess we're supposed to assume that even though she's a psychologist she perhaps commanded a ship along the way (perhaps a medical or science vessel).

    With regard to number 2, i think there was a timing issue for the meeting and they couldn't wait for someone of more importance.
     
  13. urbandk

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    Basically:

    1) that the TOS character resembles her

    2) the TOS character has some kind of sketchy/traumatic past

    3) the TOS character, like Cornwell, is a psychologist

    4) the TOS character ends up being a bit of the hero of that episode IIRC

    5) Cornwell is a problematic character. This kind of flirts with genocide/section 31 stuff could tie in with the dicey work done at that TOS mental hospital

    Anyhow, those are my random thoughts

    Oh, also a Discovery episode that features her pretty heavily was titled Lethe
     
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  14. Succubint

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    There is no evidence that Admiral Cornwell *does not* have command experience. Just because she was a psychologist several decades ago and had a personal past history with Prime Lorca does not indicate she's not a currently a seasoned Starfleet leader who has earned her rank the hard way.

    We've seen in TNG's All Good Things, future Crusher being in the medical field, having a command of her own and also a past romantic history with Picard which impacts her.
     
  15. Hythlodeus

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    tee hee hee....'dutie'
     
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  16. King Daniel Beyond

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    I still don't understand how she ever went from ships' counsellor (which Culber deseprately needs right now, where's Disco's?) to admiral with command over starships. There are several important steps missing:lol:
     
  17. Agony_Boothb

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    Maybe she had command of a medical ship or something? Or she could have switched tracks? Or maybe she kept crashing starships like a certain other counsellor they promoted her so she'd fly a desk instead
     
  18. Timo

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    We really don't know how far in Cornwell's past this stint in psychology is. Lorca makes it sound as if it were ancient history, and Cornwell doesn't challenge him on that. For all we know, Cornwell dropped psychology and joined Starfleet in her twenties, and has never been on any track other than Command&Conquer there.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  19. Nerys Myk

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    Who said she was a ship's counsellor?
     
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    To reveal to everyone that Redjac is really Walter Sickert. ;)
     
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