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CNET Review: "First impressions of a 'Star Trek' virgin"

Carpe Occasio

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First Impressions of a Star Trek Virgin

No spoilers in quoted segments below (but minor spoilers in linked full review).


"...my assignment: to see if it was possible for someone completely new to the "Star Trek" universe to understand, process, and more importantly enjoy this new film."

"Here's my background. I had never seen any of the prior "Star Trek" films or television series. I knew little more than the fact that it's all about a bunch of people flying a spaceship called the Enterprise, that Leonard Nimoy played an extraterrestrial named Spock who had funny ears and liked to say "Live long and prosper," and that the Klingon language has such a rabid following that the Bible has been translated into it..."

"So here is my verdict: This movie is awesome."

"The new "Star Trek" film is less an homage to a legendary science fiction franchise than to storytelling in general, back through decades of cinema and television and beyond. A deep respect for literature, pop culture, and epic storytelling is something that Abrams has proven time and again to fans, from the litany of film-rooted "Sawyer nicknames" on "Lost" to the tradition of Japanese monster movies that powered last year's "Cloverfield." This is a movie that will probably be well-regarded by anyone with an appreciation for epic adventure and drama, not to mention fast-paced and often witty dialogue..."

"But more importantly, "Star Trek" is just plain fun. And I came to appreciate the fact that I was sitting in that theater without prejudice. I was concerned less about whether the cast would live up to the actors who originated their roles, and more about holy whoa, that spaceship just blew up!. There is, however, a flip side to the universality of the new "Star Trek" that Paramount might not love: The fact that it stands so well on its own might mean that it doesn't mint a new generation of Trekkies."


Entire review at http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10225572-36.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0
 
Re: First Impressions of a Star Trek Virgin


The fact that it stands so well on its own might mean that it doesn't mint a new generation of Trekkies."

Love the review, but this statement makes me say "Que?!?"

As long as the movie generates an audience for the next film, can't we call them fans?

Paramount should actually love it it Trek goes mainstream.
 
Re: First Impressions of a Star Trek Virgin

I think the most interesting line comes from the rest of the review at CNET -

"Pretty early on, you can tell that this isn't the "Star Trek" of the '60s"
 
Sorry, missed the other thread, please delete/fold in. Thanks.

A review by a CNET staffer, who knows as much about STAR TREK as I would think the "average" non-fan would:

Here's my background. I had never seen any of the prior "Star Trek" films or television series. I knew little more than the fact that it's all about a bunch of people flying a spaceship called the Enterprise, that Leonard Nimoy played an extraterrestrial named Spock who had funny ears and liked to say "Live long and prosper," and that the Klingon language has such a rabid following that the Bible has been translated into it. (...)

So here is my verdict: This movie is awesome.​
One thing I've wondered is if this movie would spark any interest in the original show(s). Maybe not:

Like me, for one. As much as I enjoyed the prequel, I can't see myself Netflixing all the DVDs of the past "Star Trek" TV series and movies. I've already got "Lost" to deal with, and one fictional universe and canon is enough for me, thank you very much.​


I imagine some folks will be brought into the larger Trek fandom via this film, as seems to have happened with the new Doctor Who, but I don't think that means the DVDs will start flying off the shelves.
 
There is already a thread on it, but I really liked the review, I think many people are going to be thinking like this person (Although I hope they stick around)
 
It's by a girl! Eww-www!

Actually, pretty cool. No, I don't think it's reasonable to expect that most people who love this film will give a crap about Trek fandom or Trek history as a result. Still, if the number who do is as high as one in one hundred, we'll certainly notice around here...
 
The comment from NJScoundrel is the funniest thing I've read all day. I wonder if he posts here. I guess he's of the "classic music or nothing" mentality of what Trek is supposed to be and was seriously offended by the music from Star Trek: First Contact.

Then there's the comment from crenstorm, who is pissed off that this movie stands on it's own(?!?!?!?). There's a reason why Trek nerds who believe 1000 hours of prior Trek watching should be required to understand 2-hour movies aren't running the show.
 
It's by a girl! Eww-www!

Actually, pretty cool. No, I don't think it's reasonable to expect that most people who love this film will give a crap about Trek fandom or Trek history as a result. Still, if the number who do is as high as one in one hundred, we'll certainly notice around here...
Girls are icky, except for Helen Noel, She makes me all tingly in funny places.
 
After seeing this film, there will definitely be some people who are curious about the original and the spin offs as well. Not everybody of course but a certain percentage.....
 
From the review:

The first 20 minutes contain not only ear-splitting action sequences, but brand-drops of both Nokia and Budweiser (as well as 'Slusho,' a fictional brand from "Cloverfield"), one very Abrams-esque "gotcha" character reveal that will take most newbies like me by surprise, and the oddly effective use of the Beastie Boys' 1994 song "Sabotage."

ARGH!!!
 
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Love me some Beastie Boys............now I have to see this!!!!!!!! 2 weeks..........COME ON!!!!!!!!!
 
I don't care if newbies watch the old Treks or not. All I care about is for them to like this enough to make NEW Trek.
 
Sounds awesome
From the review:

The first 20 minutes contain not only ear-splitting action sequences, but brand-drops of both Nokia and Budweiser (as well as 'Slusho,' a fictional brand from "Cloverfield"), one very Abrams-esque "gotcha" character reveal that will take most newbies like me by surprise, and the oddly effective use of the Beastie Boys' 1994 song "Sabotage."

ARGH!!!
Talk like a pirate day come early?
 
From the review:

The first 20 minutes contain not only ear-splitting action sequences, but brand-drops of both Nokia and Budweiser (as well as 'Slusho,' a fictional brand from "Cloverfield"), one very Abrams-esque "gotcha" character reveal that will take most newbies like me by surprise, and the oddly effective use of the Beastie Boys' 1994 song "Sabotage."
ARGH!!!

I agree fully. Nokia? Why and what?
 
From the review:

The first 20 minutes contain not only ear-splitting action sequences, but brand-drops of both Nokia and Budweiser (as well as 'Slusho,' a fictional brand from "Cloverfield"), one very Abrams-esque "gotcha" character reveal that will take most newbies like me by surprise, and the oddly effective use of the Beastie Boys' 1994 song "Sabotage."
ARGH!!!

I agree fully. Nokia? Why and what?
The why is easy enough: Nokia is one of the companies with a tie-in deal (which reportedly involves no product placement but which does involve their logo being visible to those with sharp eyes.) As to what: I think the clue to that has been present in at least one of the reviews I've read this week.
...that it'll be something very similar to this, which appeared in 2001: A Space Odyssey, back in 1968.
 
From the review:

The first 20 minutes contain not only ear-splitting action sequences, but brand-drops of both Nokia and Budweiser (as well as 'Slusho,' a fictional brand from "Cloverfield"), one very Abrams-esque "gotcha" character reveal that will take most newbies like me by surprise, and the oddly effective use of the Beastie Boys' 1994 song "Sabotage."

ARGH!!!

The Beastie Boys sing "Sabotage".

I sing "Sabotaaage".
 
Sorry, missed the other thread, please delete/fold in. Thanks.

A review by a CNET staffer, who knows as much about STAR TREK as I would think the "average" non-fan would:

Here's my background. I had never seen any of the prior "Star Trek" films or television series. I knew little more than the fact that it's all about a bunch of people flying a spaceship called the Enterprise, that Leonard Nimoy played an extraterrestrial named Spock who had funny ears and liked to say "Live long and prosper," and that the Klingon language has such a rabid following that the Bible has been translated into it. (...)

So here is my verdict: This movie is awesome.​
One thing I've wondered is if this movie would spark any interest in the original show(s). Maybe not:

Like me, for one. As much as I enjoyed the prequel, I can't see myself Netflixing all the DVDs of the past "Star Trek" TV series and movies. I've already got "Lost" to deal with, and one fictional universe and canon is enough for me, thank you very much.​


I imagine some folks will be brought into the larger Trek fandom via this film, as seems to have happened with the new Doctor Who, but I don't think that means the DVDs will start flying off the shelves.

that's okay. as long as they watch this and any future trek, I'm okay with it.
 
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