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Phoenicianknight

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So, Last night, I worked a few hours overtime at the detention center during visiting, they were short staff, and needed the help. (I work for Juvenile Probation) .

Well, processed the visitors, all parents and grandparents of the detained kids, and three of them reconized me. They called out my Name "Mr. Knight", I looked up, and asked if I could help them. 3 of the parents, looked at me and poked each other, "See I told you it is him." The three fathers went through the detetnion center 20 years ago, and I was a regular staff there.

They could not believe it wa me. They stated I looked about their age, when I was about 12 years older.They still coldn't believe it was me, that looked exactly the same, where as they had all changed so much.

I told them they were teenagers whe they came through here, and I was already an adult. We might have been the same size, but I was done growing. But, they stated I didn't have gray hair or wrinkles, and was still trim.

I just told them "I don't drink or smoke or chase wild women late at night, my only vise is The Chinese Buffet by my house."
 
Genetics, plenty of sleep and rest each day, not being on a lot of medications, along with an ability not to be overly stressed about things--any or a combination of them will also do that for you.
 
I about to turn 49. People usually think I'm at least 10 years younger--and that almost 53yo Hubby is about 40yo. We'd look even younger if we lost some weight.

Genetics count for a lot, but we don't smoke and rarely drank--now no alcohol due to meds. Biggest thing? No kids. And little sun, sun doesn't help with wrinkles.

Doesn't help on my other health issues, though.
 
People always think I'm significantly older than I am, but I think that has more to do with my magnificent beard more than anything.
 
I used to look young. When I was 25, people would mistake me for a teenager around the ages of 15 or 16. Now, at 32, I get people thinking I've just turned 40 or so.
 
Well, processed the visitors, all parents and grandparents of the detained kids, and three of them reconized me. They called out my Name "Mr. Knight", I looked up, and asked if I could help them. 3 of the parents, looked at me and poked each other, "See I told you it is him." The three fathers went through the detetnion center 20 years ago, and I was a regular staff there.

They could not believe it wa me. They stated I looked about their age, when I was about 12 years older.They still coldn't believe it was me, that looked exactly the same, where as they had all changed so much.

I told them they were teenagers whe they came through here, and I was already an adult. We might have been the same size, but I was done growing. But, they stated I didn't have gray hair or wrinkles, and was still trim.

I just told them "I don't drink or smoke or chase wild women late at night, my only vise is The Chinese Buffet by my house."

How do I know you're not simply an ageless vampire, Mr. Knight, if that's even your real name?
 
<--- That was me at 57 in 2003 and there hasn't been much change. (Turning 66 in 11 days.) I can still fit in the Tux, just not very often. Genetic good fortune, moderate diet and heavy bicycling keep me at around 165# on my 6' frame and I'm working hard to keep it all working.
 
Less than a year ago, at age 27, a woman thought I was 16. Soon after that, I got carded (the drinking age here is 19). Two years before that someone thought I was 14............ I was 25.

Now I've got a couple wrinkles on my forehead and I fear all of that is over.
 
Less than a year ago, at age 27, a woman thought I was 16. Soon after that, I got carded (the drinking age here is 19). Two years before that someone thought I was 14............ I was 25.

Now I've got a couple wrinkles on my forehead and I fear all of that is over.


My 16 year old son wants to know where he can start drinking at 19?
 
I think in most western countries you can drink at 18.

Me, definitely looking my age (if not older). I am 54 but I have age a lot in the last three years due to ill health. I have also put quite a bit of weight on :(

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Less than a year ago, at age 27, a woman thought I was 16. Soon after that, I got carded (the drinking age here is 19). Two years before that someone thought I was 14............ I was 25.

Now I've got a couple wrinkles on my forehead and I fear all of that is over.


My 16 year old son wants to know where he can start drinking at 19?

Here in Ontario is 19. Quebec is 18.
 
Genetics, plenty of sleep and rest each day, not being on a lot of medications, along with an ability not to be overly stressed about things--any or a combination of them will also do that for you.

Genetics don't have that much of an impact on this and have more to do with passing down certain traits that could unexpectedly shorten ones expectancy.
Its more down to a healthier way of living, eating, avoiding pharmaceuticals, stress (this one is the biggest factor that can contribute to ageing), and of course other factors (exercise, meditation - both of which can have a rather large impact on the body and affect ones genes - especially the latter - so there's a potential possibility for minimizing or eliminating chances of suffering from certain problems that could be passed down).

I also think people exhibited a rather problematic penchant recently for jumping on the 'lets blame genetics' bandwagon for almost everything. Studies and articles are what they are... subject to change at any given time (and most change more in a single year which produce a variety of results - rarely which are applicable to real life on a global scale - plus, we are talking about large generalizations that easily and frequently crumble on an individual level for the most part).
 
Genetics, plenty of sleep and rest each day, not being on a lot of medications, along with an ability not to be overly stressed about things--any or a combination of them will also do that for you.

Genetics don't have that much of an impact on this and have more to do with passing down certain traits that could unexpectedly shorten ones expectancy.
Its more down to a healthier way of living, eating, avoiding pharmaceuticals, stress (this one is the biggest factor that can contribute to ageing), and of course other factors (exercise, meditation - both of which can have a rather large impact on the body and affect ones genes - especially the latter - so there's a potential possibility for minimizing or eliminating chances of suffering from certain problems that could be passed down).

I also think people exhibited a rather problematic penchant recently for jumping on the 'lets blame genetics' bandwagon for almost everything. Studies and articles are what they are... subject to change at any given time (and most change more in a single year which produce a variety of results - rarely which are applicable to real life on a global scale - plus, we are talking about large generalizations that easily and frequently crumble on an individual level for the most part).

I'd rather not avoid pharmaceuticals. I have this strange attachment to living.
 
Genetics, plenty of sleep and rest each day, not being on a lot of medications, along with an ability not to be overly stressed about things--any or a combination of them will also do that for you.

Genetics don't have that much of an impact on this and have more to do with passing down certain traits that could unexpectedly shorten ones expectancy.
Its more down to a healthier way of living, eating, avoiding pharmaceuticals, stress (this one is the biggest factor that can contribute to ageing), and of course other factors (exercise, meditation - both of which can have a rather large impact on the body and affect ones genes - especially the latter - so there's a potential possibility for minimizing or eliminating chances of suffering from certain problems that could be passed down).
Do you have scientific research to support this claim? I'm not asking to be contrary, but am genuinely curious. I'd cite my mother, who looks about 15 years younger than she actually is as a case study for the importance of genetics. She's been prescribed dozens of medications of 30 years, she was addicted to heroin at one point, smoked for 10 years, had a highly abusive childhood and young adult life that were incredibly stressful, has lost and gained and lost over about 50lbs, had 5 kids, and yet, in her mid 50s she looks 40. I also look young for my age, and at 29 I still get mistaken for a teen. (And speaking of the importance of genetics, let's not forget the old adage: black don't crack.)
Of course, this is just a case study, not a large sample...but I'd still be inclined to say that genes play a very important role in the aging process, probably equal to that of lifestyle.
 
I hadn't said that genetics don't have an effect on ageing... I was saying that their presumed effect might be overestimated.
There are other factors to be taken into account.
The mental component for one. People could be subjected to numerous stressful factors and still come out on top - depends on how one deals with them and what actions are taken that benefit or could be detrimental to ones well-being (or the subconscious could be dealing with issues in a different way).
Each individual deals with life in their own unique way - but those could leave a residual mark on the body (or not - depends).

For example, I had 130kg and lost 46 kg in 4 months (that was 9 years ago).
Before I lost the weight, I looked older than I actually was. I'm 29 now and I have also been mistaken for a teen at times (depending on my haircut - very short haircut makes me look like I'm in my early 20-ies, and longer one can make me look like I'm 19 or younger).
This is but one example on how the body can 'change' for the better - and yes, all other past stress factors that influenced the body might not be seen on the surface if you made a large change, but they could potentially manifest in other ways (the mental component on the other hand such as meditation could be used in order to reduce or even potentially eliminate this problem - I was able to do many things with meditation for myself - but that of course is just 1 example that isn't necessarily applicable to others who don't adhere to similar parameters - though each person might have to find what works best for them if they want similar effects for themselves - which in turn isn't a guarantee it will work - I try to approach life and techniques from a perspective that it can go either way, and regardless of the immediate results, I keep an open mind to the possibility it could change).

My mother was also a heavy smoker and managed to smoke through 1 or 2 cases in a week.
These days, she still looks younger than her age - but she also quit smoking about 9 years ago (much around the same time frame I lost my weight).
Having said that, she had some other medical issues that could have been brought about by her excessive smoking back in the day.

Skin elasticity for example is very dependent on nutrients in the diet than genetics (even though they do play a role).
It also depends on how an individual's body absorbs nutrients (level of efficiency), foods you eat (family members eating the same food may not have the same effect on their individual bodies even if they share the same genes), lifestyle, etc.
Granted, it can also be difficult to ascertain to what extent genetics are responsible.

Point being... the body can be influenced/changed a lot by external stimulus.

Regarding scientific studies on the subject matter... I can only offer personal experiences and observations of others - all of which should be taken with a grain of salt of course as I keep an open-mind to the possibility I could be mistaken.
Same applies (or should be applied) to science - articles and studies need to be taken with a HEAVY grain of salt. They have a tendency to change frequently throughout 1 year alone producing mixed results, and very few scientists will tell you that they keep an open mind to the possibility their findings could be wrong. Science isn't supposed to be dealing with absolutes, 'belief', 'faith' or even 'the truth'. It deals predominantly in theory and hypothesis - both of which are supposed to be subject to change at any given time.
Evidence is not proof and correlation is not proof of causation. Those are the guidelines it was supposed to follow, but today, articles and studies are structured in such a way that 'findings' or 'evidence' is automatically treated as 'facts' or 'proof', discouraging any other talk on the subject matter (and those who do, often end up ridiculed or discarded).

As for pharmaceuticals J. Allen...
Well, if you think that you can't live without the very thing that effectively poisons your body slowly and could produce very nasty side-effects from prolonged use, that is your decision.
I stopped using pharmaceutical products of any kind over 9 years ago, and I am in a much better position health-wise than family peers, family members, peers in general in the same age range who are using some kinds of drugs in the first place (and no, my body is nothing special in this regard).
If I come down with something, I recover in a fraction of the time it takes others on drugs to do the same. Then again I also exercise on a regular basis and meditate (others who use pharmaceuticals do exercise frequently as well, though none really meditate - and I was actually impacted in a similar way back when I used pharmaceuticals - slow recovery, not giving the body the chance to do it on its own - I mean seriously, proper nutrition can supplement the immune system in ways drugs can never match because the latter is immunosuppressive by design).
Doctors originally approached drugs as means to be used in emergencies for a short amount of time if there are no other options (exactly because they are aware of their toxic properties made by design - to that end, majority of pharmaceuticals only deal with the symptoms and not the underlying cause).
 
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