Chick-Fil-A Supported AFA Director Promotes Child Kidnapping

[Saito S]

Very true. I'm just getting tired of seeing words like "hate" and "bigot" being thrown around like they don't actually have meanings.

And I'm getting tired of this pattern of people pushing back against things that never actually happened.

Poster A: Cathy is a bigot. Anyone who wants to eat there more now BECAUSE CFA is giving money to anti-gay groups is also a bigot.

Poster B: Just because someone eats at CFA doesn't mean they are a bigot!

Poster A: Well no. Not everyone who eats there is a bigot themselves, even if they eat there knowing this. It does display a certain apathy, and they are supporting bigotry.

Poster B: I see so many of you guys calling ANYONE who DARES eat there a bigot! Stop doing that!!

Poster A: whut

Seriously, it's getting old.

 

[Peacemaker]

I wonder if Anita Bryant ever at at CFA?

 

[Avon]

i wonder how many cocks the customers at chicky-filter have eaten today?

because clearly anyone that eats there loves a suculent piece of meat in their mouths.

 

[boobatuba]

I wonder how many more threads we have to have on this subject before everyone simply acknowledges that the "Appreciation Day" should have been called "In Your Face, Fags...Day."

More honest.

 

[gturner]

Do you have somebody specific in mind? Is Jeremy Hooper not the right person for the job? Really, since you're making these suggestions, you should come up with something a little less vague,and a lot more specific. Let's be clear here, there are organizations that actually pay people to do this very thing, and they even sit down every day and listen to radio shows and monitor the internet for what Fischer says.

Which gets me to a wider point. Like gturner, you too need to stop hiding your expertise at trekbbs.com. Yes, yes, we know, all the gay leaders come here to get their ideas, but seriously, the bevy that is the pair of you really needs to get on this and call in to Michaelangelo Signiorile's radio show, write letters to HRC and GLAAD, etc. These are you guys' ideas - so it's up to you, not me to implement them.

Well, if Fischer is walking the line on actually arranging a kidnapping, then it might be possible to entice him to step over. With various prosecutors, the US Marshalls, and GLAAD already involved in these cases, and given that he and his supporters can't be sure which of their own side is serious and which are just baiting and stumping, a sting would probably be pretty easy to pull off.

GLAAD can provide the fake targets, serious sounding religious folks (that you probably could pick yourself) in concert with law enforcement can provide the setup, the government can monitor the e-mails and phone conversations, and you see who bites. Just planning a real crime is an inchoate offense that in most states carries the full penalty, as if the crime had been carried out.

If they bite, then you've got not just Fischer (who would probably coordinate by putting people in contact with one another), but an entire child kidnapping ring run out of the AFA and busted by the FBI, and splattered all over the front pages. Church members would be aghast. Parents would be horrified.

However, it's something that couldn't hit a radio show or the whole scheme would be blown. That's why all the serious plotters just post at TrekBBS.

 

[Peacemaker]

Well, if Fischer is walking the line on actually arranging a kidnapping, then it might be possible to entice him to step over.

You know, I really don't think he has the courage to actually do it. I think he's one of those people who likes to get people to his dirty work for him.

The worst part of this, however, for me, isn't Fischer - it's his apparent lack of ecclesiastical accountability. Here's where, if I had the knowledge, really would step in directly, by the way. I would like to know exactly what church holds his membership. The elders should be told, and they should immediately discipline him. This where i have the biggest problems with groups like the ACA. They are not churches, they are parachurch organizations, and, while they may (and often do) have pastors and teachers on their boards of directors, they don't have any ecclesiastical accountability to a local church or denomination. At least Richard Land at the SBC's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission is accountable to the Executive Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention and from there directly to the SBC, which is, when in annual session, composed of the messengers from member churches. They can, and many, many, many times have disciplined denominational officers, and often publicly. Fischer doesn't have that, because the ACA doesn't have that.

 

[IndyJones]

^ That's good, I just think this whole singling out of chick fil a and attacking them every which way is just ridiculous, so many better things to do in life.

Like singling out gays, and making us follow "biblical" marriage rules when heterosexuals don't have to?

I go to places and spend money at places that give money to organizations I don't believe in, it doesn't bother me...

So, you don't have a problem with personally giving money to groups that support causes that you don't, and that's cool. But you do have a problem with *me* having the ability to support what I want, living how I want. You want the right to support the institutions of your choosing, but you don't want me to be able to do the same.

See the contradiction there?