CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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  1. Jedi_Master

    Jedi_Master Admiral Admiral

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    The challenge in dealing with Alec is that he's a disgusting human being whose toxicity infects everyone around him, even those who are his critics. He lowers the level of discourse, lies with a breathtaking ease, and is always looking for ways to start fights. He's an exhausting opponent who lives to fight, lie, attack, and sue.
    I don't disagree that some of his critics take it too far, but even at their very, very worst they don't come close to matching Alec's venality, toxicity, and narcissism. In 99.9% of the cases, they step back, apologize, and look to improve.
     
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  2. Campe

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    I don’t think anyone is defending Alec. I just wonder when enough is enough on some of this. It’s one thing to fight the good fight. It’s another thing when it just comes to be a personal vendetta.
     
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  3. Richard Baker

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    My issue is not so much with him but the devastation he did to the fan film community.
     
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  4. Jedi_Master

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    I guess it's up to each individual - I've still got some piss and vinegar left.
     
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  5. Campe

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    Oh, I’ve never seen you as one whose taken any of this particularly personal. And there’s certainly something to be said about piss and vinegar.
     
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  6. urbandefault

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    In all this, where's Slow Lane?

    It's like Where's Waldo, but more fun. :techman:
     
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  7. Campe

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    Rumors suggest Jonathan is no longer on Team Axanar.
     
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  8. Sgt_G

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    Wow. If true, one has to wonder how low AP got to make that happen.
     
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    Wow!! He could be an ex-President.
     
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  10. Maurice

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    Under what circumstances and conditions was this offer made?
     
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  11. Jedi_Master

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    From Shawn’s retelling, it was a long distance hallway conversation.
     
  12. Maurice

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    In public? No wonder.

    And how are either of them going to trust each other? If they record a conversation then any accidental slip of the tongue or clumsy statement is going to go all over social media. And if not, then either one of them can claim the other said whatever they want. It's really a no-win scenario, isn't it?
     
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  13. Jedi_Master

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    I won't argue with that, and the fact that several pages of this thread have now been devoted to the shenanigans of a 12 year old boy, the 15 seconds worth of blurting out by a 60 year old failure, and the hours and hours of responses by both sides kind of tells you how silly all of this has become.
     
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  14. Campe

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    Moving on... AxaSupporter Reece Watkins speaks to Trekzone:



    Its interesting to hear a voice from the other side of things (other than Alec). I'm always a believer of the idea of a story having three sides: yours, theirs and the truth.
     
  15. OtherGene

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    I'd forgotten about Jonathon Lane and his funny ways. Those long, long blog posts giving approximately two sentences of information. I'm surprised to be honest, I thought his support for Alec Peters went beyond family ties etc so often would he defend the indefensible.

    Hey, I wonder if he got himself $30-50k on the way out like pretty much everybody else seems to?
     
  16. fireproof78

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    I appreciate his point of view but it also reiterates that Axanar suffered from mission creep. The ideas of building a studio so other fans could use the space sounds nothing like making Axanar.

    It's nice that Alec has supporters. I just don't agree on the choices made around what started out as a fan film.
     
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  17. CorporalCaptain

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    That's debatable. Very debatable. And it would appear that some here have come to a different conclusion altogether.
     
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    Not sure I want to sit through that interview. Reece has been a complete tool during all of this, in a lot of ways.
     
  19. Jedi_Master

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    It's not so much of an interview than a forum for Reece to repeat Alecpropaganda.
     
  20. Sgt_G

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    What's debatable about it? If it wasn't mission creep, then he planned to build a for-hire / for-profit studio from the get-go. I don't recall him saying that back in the early days of his proposed project. Ergo: Mission creep or he flat out lied to everyone. Either scenario is totally believable at this point.