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Cardassia: Second Contact

ryctor2008

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Hey folks! I'm a long time lurker, now throwing my hat in the ring! Can't wait for the next movie. Also, I'm looking forward to the 2009 ENT books. Anyways, onto my thesis:

In the Star Trek mythos, many of the interstellar powers represent real world powers of various degrees. The Klingon's of old were the USSR (or Russia), the Romulan's China (or North Korea), the Federation NATO/USA/UK, etc. Now to me, the Cardassians were always either the Middle East as a whole, or someplace like South America, India, or Southeast Asia. Meaning, they were a major power because of there population and location. But, they weren't quite on the level of say the Federation, Romulans, or even the Dominion. Where I'm going with this is that Cardassia, like their real world counterparts, could have gain promenace relatively recently in Trek. Many have asked the question about first contact with Cardassia, and when would this book come out. But, I think what would be interesting would be a book on what I'd call "second contact".

My scenario would be that Cardassia may have been known for a long time. Even as far back as Archer's time (but after the books TGTMD or KM), or the era between ENT and TOS. During this time, Cardassia was unimportant. Sorta like the countries I named that started more slowly on the world stage. In a way even the U.S. did not really become major until WWI. Just like that scenario, the Cardies began expansion, and boom!, we move into the Terok Nor series!:devil: No, not that quickly. But, I wanna throw out to the audience an idea on Cardassia not really having the traditional first major contact like the Klingons and Romulans, but more of a slow build until they are ready for the Galactic stage.

And if the book does come out, my name comes after Marco's!:evil:

Ryctor!
 
The Cardassians were pretty obviously meant to represent or at least invoke the memory of Nazi Germany with the whole "occupation of Bajor", the Obsidion Order (Gestapo),the control by the military, the strong desire for order, the peace before the war that left them weak and angry, etc.
 
If you want to talk Cardassian possibilities, step right into the fanfic forum...I would be very happy to shamelessly self-promote... :evil: ;)




(Though I'd actually be quite happy to listen to your ideas as well.)
 
I don't think the Cardassians were ever meant to evoke the Middle East, Asia, or South America. I always took them as a combination of German, British, and Russian cultures, to be honest.
 
^ I think Rictor's analogy was about Cardassia's geopolitical standing (translated to Trek's scale), not the cultural influences that went into crafting the culture. Me, I look on Cardassia as North Korea: militaristic regime that whips up absurd patriotism to compensate for the fact that the military is draining what little resources they had in the first place; secret police; has fought a major power to a standstill, although largely because the bigger power didn't want to commit to large-scale operations; still capable of causing trouble with their rogue weapons program; and eventually finds a much more powerful patron. The analogies aren't exact, of course (there's no equivalent of Cardassia's imperial project, particularly towards Bajor), but that's how I see Cardassia geopolitically: second- if not third-rate enfant terrible of the Alpha and Beta quadrants.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Cardassia's Israel... A formerly downtrodden people who now live by the sword, feel they have to be sabre-rattling to survive
 
Hmm... this has a fan-fic / story-idea bent on it, so I'm going to have to move this to the fan-fic forum.

ryctor2008, I'm glad you came out of lurking to join the conversation, however the Trek Lit forum specifically has a "no story ideas" rule due to various legality issues and the fact that professional authors and editors post here.
 
One thing I have always wondered about the evolution of the Cardassian Union is how long it took for the system we see after 500 years to come into being. Whether you approve or disapprove (and I have no wish to start that debate here), there is no doubt that the US and UK have both changed in about half that time, that there have been shifts in the balance of power both for better or for worse. What I wonder is whether, say, 250 years ago, or 500 years ago at the very start, the system of the Cardassian Union would be fully recognizable as what we see later--or if there would have been some sort of evolutionary progression to that point.

One of the telling points to me is that we have these supposedly neutral worlds like Lissepia, the Xepolites, and the Klaestrons, that still follow the Cardassians in their affairs even though it would have been very easy to switch allegiances to the Federation, especially during the Federation-Cardassian War, when they could have deliberately aimed to be drawn within Federation territory. Why is it they follow Cardassia? It could be puppet governments, it could be something they feel they get from the Cardassians, or there could be ties of a different sort that go back quite a ways: perhaps the circumstances of first contact were not quite what they would be for a much later first contact--like the Cardassia-Bajor one. I can't see ANY kind of warm feelings resulting if Cardassia introduced itself to those worlds like THAT.

So I find myself wondering: was the Cardassian Union a bit different at the time?

I plan to offer hints of that story someday--or at least how I see it...but I'd be interested to hear what others think. :)
 
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