Captain Kirk and Commdre Decker : Members of Section 31

[DumbDumb2007]

Captain Kirk and Commodore Decker would have both been members of Section 31. Decker was investigating the General area when the DDM came by and Kirk was in the General area when the Colony planet in DOTD was destroyed the following year.
Kirk and Co. handled the Anti Borg weapon sucessfully so it was decided to keep the Enterprise in key areas when troubles arose. Starting with Jonathan Archer any Captain of a ship named Enterprise would have been under automatic review by Section 31. Picard was also informed of Section 31( TNG Season 1 Final episode) which is why the 1701-D was first to encounter the Borg officially.

 

[A beaker full of death]

What. The. FUCK???

 

[The Old Mixer]

So that must mean that the Enterprise encountering the Borg face-to-face in the Delta Quadrant was no coincidence. Was Q a member of Section 31...!?!

 

[USS Excelsior]

Horseshit

 

[Sisu]

And what about Section 31 on Vulcan?

Our motto: The walls have ears. But not points.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Not just horseshit...but horseshit that was genetically engineered by Section 31 to play a key role in stopping the Borg...!

 

[Sisu]

You don't mean..... Ass-imilliated horseshit?

 

[FredH]

Just for kicks:

While I don't see the logic of the original post, I could buy Kirk as a Section 31 operative, assuming we're talking about a 1960s-TV version of S31 that plays dirty tricks for overtly good ends (rather than the cold-killer DS9 version, let alone that of the novels). Even leaving aside the actual espionage op in "The Enterprise Incident" or the convenient explosion of Ceti Alpha VI six months after the 1701 left the system, you repeatedly have Kirk placed in a situation where he pushes through Prime Directive violations for a greater (but extralegal) good--which one could see as S31's agenda. Obviously this wasn't the intent of the producers involved; I'm just saying that it could work, if one wanted it to.

Decker, we don't know enough about.

 

[Jack Bauer]

DumbDumb2007 picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

 

[Ronald Held]

????????

 

[Sisu]

and give up smoking.

and give up drinking.

and give up amphetamines.

They're coming right at us!

 

[Outpost4]

DumbDumb was also in Starfleet and is a member of Section 8.

 

[DumbDumb2007]

After his promotion to Admiral. Kirk would have undoubtably been informed of Section 31. As the ceif of Starfleet operations he would have had to have known about it. Section 31 kept close tabs of all starships named Enterprise after Jonathan Archer commanded the first Starship Enterprise and had a Section 31 Operative aboard.
Commodore Decker being of Flag Rank would have known of Section 31 and any kind of unusual log report involving the Borg . Starfleet had sent out long distance probes since Friendship One. The Constellation was dispatched to investigate the Planet Killer since a Long range probe would have sent back information on it. Being a Confidant of Section 31 Decker took it upon himself to stop the Planet Killer which Starfleet let get too close to the Federation. decker took it upon himself to destroy it. Starfleet Command could have dealt with the Planet Killer further away from Federation Space but wanted to investigate it firtst hand and see if it could be used to fight the Borg. All information on the Borg would have been kept Confidential.
Captain Archer's report to Starfleet that the Borg sent a message to the Delta Quadrant would have been Bone Chilling and taken seriously .
Starfleet knew since 2252-2253 that they were coming.
The agressive 5 Year Mission Program was developed with that in hindsight. Decker knew about it, Commodore Wesley knew about it. The M-5 computer was invented to handle a Starship's functions in case the crew was assimilated.
The M-5 was designed the handle the " Uni-Mind" of the Borg that was secretly known of. It had to outthink the Borg.

 

[Outpost4]

Fan Fiction is a different forum, DumbDumb.

 

[cardinal biggles]

I think we need to start a separate Fan Wank forum.

Oh, wait, that's right... it's called Future of Trek. And I moderate it.

 

[nx1701g]

I highly doubt they were in Section 31. Noncanonly Kirk even started an organization in Starfleet to try to destroy Section 31.

 

[Ronald Held]

No canonical evidence for this. As posted above, Kirk did start such an orginaization in the TOS section 31 novel

 

[pookha]

the only thing that may have connected kirk with section 31 would have been the enterprise incident.
i could see them being behind that.

decker being associated with it noooo.

 

[Kegek]

DumbDumb2007 said:
After his promotion to Admiral. Kirk would have undoubtably been informed of Section 31. As the ceif of Starfleet operations he would have had to have known about it.

Not necessarily. DS9 established that S31 worked entirely independently of Starfleet, and even apparently the Federation Council - only occasionally soliciting the aid of select Starfleet figures.

Anyway, it's feasible, it may even be in the plot of the new movie - but I doubt it. I doubt that he was - he doesn't seem the type - and I doubt the movie or any other licensed product would use the idea.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Is "DumbDumb" trying to show us how conspiracy theorists would look like in the 23rd/24th century??