Can someone please help me out

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Zeratul, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Therin of Andor

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  2. T'Girl

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    The Seattle Public Library has the whole Best of Trek series, your local library may as well.

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  3. Zeratul

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    I never imagined to even look at the library ill have to look at my local branch Thank you!!! Or now that I see it’s so cheap I may just have to buy it haha decisions decisions. :techman:
     
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    Didn't "The Best of Trek" contain material previous published in a magazine?

    And didn't they, years later, publish a book that was sort of "The Best of 'The Best of Trek'", more or less condensing the material found in the previous series of books?

    On this line of thought, can anyone else remember the book "The World of Star Trek", and another book (the title of which escapes me) that was out at about the same time and covered similar material? (If anyone recalls the title, feel free to clue me in. Please.)




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    It was "The Making of Star Trek", now available at Amazon for the insane price of about $30, whereas 'World of" can be had, brand new, for about $7. :(
     
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  5. T'Girl

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    There was a Trek magazine/fanzine at one time.

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  6. Zeratul

    Zeratul Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I was just watching "The Omega Glory" and McCoy said the human body was 97 percent water. I thought it was much less than that. Was science that different in the sixties?
     
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    If you go by the number of molecules, then McCoy is more or less correct. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body#Composition_by_molecule_type, 98.73% of the molecules in a typical human cell are water molecules.

    On the other hand, if you go by mass, then the figure is 65%.

    The dialog in question is [http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/54.htm]:
    I've highlighted the actual error. Clearly, the pile of chemicals should weigh more and be much bigger.

    The morale of this story is that it needs to be clear what is being counted or measured.

    Another excellent question! Keep them coming!
     
  8. Therin of Andor

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    The first several volumes were indeed PB omnibuses of popular articles from "Trek" prozine. Later paperbacks in the series kept up the pretense that they were comprised of magazine highlights, but the 'zine itself had essentially vanished.

    There were two "Best of the Best of Trek" trade omnibuses, but they were certainly not the entirety of the eighteen volumes of "The Best of Trek".

    "World of Star Trek" and "The Trouble With Tribbles: The Making of the TV Episode" were both by David Gerrold. Not really like "Best of Trek", though.

    Gerrold revised "World of Star Trek" as a trade PB during the TOS movie era. A more recent collection of articles, but by pros, not amateurs, was edited by Gerrold. It was called "Boarding the Enterprise".
     
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    Someone sneezed. Just ask Batman (1966 movie).
     
  10. Cash or Credit

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    That whole part of the film actually creeped me out when I was a kid.
     
  11. Zeratul

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    Ok today I have one for the physicists in here. I was watching "Wink of an Eye" and I noticed a problem. Kirk goes to fire at Deela with his Phaser. She then knocks it out of this hand and it flies up and down. This is after Kirk is already time shifted and moving at a much faster rate. So shouldn't everything in the surroundings( not just the phaser) move extremely slow when ever it is not in direct contact with one who is accelerated? Any ideas?
     
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    I am so sorry. :alienblush:
     
  13. Timo

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    Yes, it should - although we could argue that the upward curve of the phaser should be just as fast as we see, as it is the direct result of Neela's hand movement. We're just missing the associated sonic boom and the friction heating, just as we are missing them when the accelerated heroes and villains walk through the air at high speed.

    It's only the downward arc of the phaser that is damning, as it's not a ricochet from the ceiling but rather a ballistic downcurve, and thus should take place at an agonizingly slow rate. Something for the next round of visual effects revamping...

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    The oils on kirk's hand and now on the pistol grip are moving at the higher frequency and keep the phaser moving at an approximate rate of speed until they evaporate. Moving along...
     
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    Depend on what you mean by "extremely slow?" The phaser was kicked out of Kirk hand hard enough that he could no long retain a grip upon it. So a few hundred feet per second (from Kirk's POV) would do.

    At about the some time Kirk disappeared, from the prospective of the other bridge residents, the phaser would have slammed into the bridge overhead and dropped to the deck.

    Sound of which was covered by Uhura scream.
     
  16. Timo

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    Oops. Rewatching always helps. Seems there's more to the scene than I thought. Or less, actually.

    The gun doesn't fly down - or make the sound of falling down outside of camera view. All it does is disappear into the ceiling (apparently because a stagehand pulled it there using a thin line). Which is a good thing, because Neela's purpose was to disarm Kirk - and a phaser clinging to the ceiling is a phaser out of Kirk's reach, whereas a gun lying on the floor would remain a threat (even if a feeble one)!

    Presumably, the gun would only fall back down when Neela pressed another button on her sidearm or collar device. And the upward trajectory would have no obligation to obey the laws of ballistics, with or without acceleration factors, as it would be dictated solely by the properties of Neela's weapon.

    Clearly, the Scalosians can make ordinary physical items move and otherwise act faster than they are designed to - this would be key to them taking over the ship. Sending Kirk's phaser flying as described thus is a simpler feat than it at first seemed.

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    Taking all that into account there are still several other instances in which time doesn’t affect objects. For instance none of the computers seem to be affected by the slowdown, and the lights on the ships consoles change at the same speeds as normal time.
     
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    In regards to "I, Mudd" it is obvious that Norman had to get off the planet and on to a ship at some point in order to fake his credentials and eventually transfer himself to the Enterprise. So one could assume that the androids had some form of surface to space transport that the crew could use.

    On the other hand, at the end it is equally obvious that the androids have been reactivated and reprogrammed. so perhaps they simply programmed those on the Enteprise to beam the crew back up and themselves back down.
     
  19. Timo

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    Umm, no.

    In the scene where Kirk speeds up, care is taken to have the blinking of the lights slow down as the characters freeze. Even the background beeps die down; ultimately, everything is at total standstill. This in my old VHS tape, not in any TOS-R reworking of the scene.

    And the only time Kirk really operates the computer, in dictating a message to Spock, he seems to wince with effort, as if the hardware were refusing to cooperate.

    Timo Saloniemi