Can a Slayer be Vamped?

[RoJoHen]

One thing that kind of surprises me that never came up in either Buffy or Angel is the idea of a Vampire Slayer that had been turned. Obviously, vampires have killed plenty of Slayers in the past. Why did none of them try to turn the Slayer into a Vampire? Is it possible? Would she still have her Slayer powers?

 

[Lindley]

Well, there was that dream episode.

I suspect the reason it hasn't happened is because vamps only turn people they want to control. If the one you're turning ends up more powerful than you off the bat, you're setting yourself up for trouble.

 

[Jetfire]

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I would think so...wasn't Buffy worried about being vamped in season 1??? I think they would lose their powers...but as a vampire wouldn't really need them...right?

I am sure this has been talked about...it would have been cool if there was a vampire slayer slayer...in other words a vampire chosen to slay vampire slayers.

 

[StarshipDefiant]

I'd say it's possible, but considering the process of someone being vamped in the series (Angel and Buffy), it's unlikely that a Slayer could be turned. I'd imagine there's been a few 'drained' so to speak, but I also recall a potential having to also drink a Vamps blood? I could be wrong, but I believe a simple Vamp bite wasn't all it took (otherwise there should be a ton more, yeah?)

I do think Angelus and Spike tried a couple times though, maybe I am wrong here.

 

[stonester1]

My guess is she wouldn't. Her powers are mystical in nature, and presumably, the enchantment that gives her her powers are cancelled by the "vamping". I don't think any specific case has been mentioned, but it wouldn't surprise me one or two do exist.

I think vamps would rather feed on a Slayer because their blood is a rush and a major power boost for a short time, though.

Buffy clearly feared it, as that first season ep which featured Buffy as a vampire showed. And Giles never said anything like "Impossible...", sooooo...

SD: To create a vamp in Buffy/Angel, being bitten isn't enough. There has to be an exchange of blood.

 

[RoJoHen]

Well, there was that dream episode.

Yeah, I'm not counting that.

I suspect the reason it hasn't happened is because vamps only turn people they want to control. If the one you're turning ends up more powerful than you off the bat, you're setting yourself up for trouble.

But you'd think that a Vampire that managed to kill a Slayer would be feeling rather confident and maybe try to do it, especially someone like Spike who killed TWO Slayers.

I mostly think a Vamped Slayer would have been an awesome enemy for one of Buffy's seasons. Maybe instead of Adam...


I'm also thinking of someone like Dracula. He was able to seduce Buffy for a short time. She even let him feed off of her, and she drank from him! It also interested me given how much he seemed to know about Slayer history. If he wasn't a man, I would have thought Dracula had been a former Slayer.

 

[Skywalker]

This reminds me of Joss Whedon's BtVS comic, Fray. Heavy character-related spoilers:

Spoiler: Fray

In it, Melaka Fray had a fraternal twin brother, Harth, which has never happened before. Because of their unique nature, Melaka received all the physical powers granted to a Slayer, but Harth inherited the prophetic dreams and visions of past Slayers. Harth was later turned into a vampire, and retained his dreams and visions, so that suggests to me that even a member of the Slayer line (even if Harth was just a partial inheritor) can become a vampire and keep their abilities.

 

[stonester1]

This reminds me of Joss Whedon's BtVS comic, Fray. Heavy character-related spoilers:

Spoiler: Fray

In it, Melaka Fray had a fraternal twin brother, Harth, which has never happened before. Because of their unique nature, Melaka received all the physical powers granted to a Slayer, but Harth inherited the prophetic dreams and visions of past Slayers. Harth was later turned into a vampire, and retained his dreams and visions, so that suggests to me that even a member of the Slayer line (even if Harth was just a partial inheritor) can become a vampire and keep their abilities.

Well, there you go. I believe Fray is canon, isn't it? That would be a scary beast, one for other vamps to fear still.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

I'm also thinking of someone like Dracula. He was able to seduce Buffy for a short time. She even let him feed off of her, and she drank from him! It also interested me given how much he seemed to know about Slayer history. If he wasn't a man, I would have thought Dracula had been a former Slayer.

Dracula flat out told Buffy that he hadn't taken enough of her blood for her to be transformed by drinking some of his. When she drank a little of his blood, there was obviously some sort of mystical transferance or somesuch. Obviously, Dracula believed that it was possible for her to be vamped, and I suppose he should know.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

There have been a couple of instances in the non-canon comics and novels of Slayers being turned, one in particular was turned by The Master.

Whilst nothing has expressly been stated on screen i don't see why a slayer couldn't be turned. According the Buffy wikia the original story behind Sunday (who was the female vampire that gave Buffy a hard time in 'the freshman') was that she was a Slayer who was turned.

 

[stonester1]

Whilst nothing has expressly been stated on screen i don't see why a slayer couldn't be turned. According the Buffy wikia the original story behind Sunday (who was the female vampire that gave Buffy a hard time in 'the freshman') was that she was a Slayer who was turned.

This does make sense.

 

[Brent]

I think a slayer could be vamped, the power of the slayer does come from demons afteral, and the vampire is a demon, if one of the weaker ones that exist in the universe, but still. I also think it would have canceled her slayer powers, and at that point would have only vamp strength. It is an interesting question for sure.

 

[Anwar]

In the episode where Buffy was turned into a vampire in a dream/nightmare world, the reason she was able to defeat the ugly nightmare dude terrorizing that comatose kid was because she had vampiric strength in addition to the power of the slayer (she lost before when she had her slayer strength). So yes, a Vamped Slayer would be far more powerful than a normal Slayer or Vamp.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Fray is considered canon yes. I am like the rest of you and think that a Slayer would just lose their powers after being turned. As was suggested earlier that a vampire would get a really big rush from attempting to feed on a slayer. Season Seven was possibly a way to explore this question with all of the Slayers.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

I think there's a story in one of the Tales of the Slayer books, written by the writers of the series, where a slayer fell in love with her watcher and then was turned and he had to stake her... at least I think that was the story, I may be mixing 2 up.

 

[mimic]

In "Helpless" the vampire seemed to want to turn Buffy, if I recall. Of course, who knows what would happen if a temporarily powerless Slayer was turned.