Cal Hudson vs Michael Eddington

[Photon]

(Brought this up in a recent thread)

Sisko was justifiably PO'd at Eddington for what he did
but his bud, Cal did the same thing (Kira got shot both times) but Sisko's anger seemed well under the radar, just more saddened.

I wonder if Sisko's overall opinion about the Maquis rebels changed over a few years. If it had been me, I would have been just as angry at my friend betraying his uniform as a colleague.

 

[Tuvoks_partner]

I think Sisko went over the top in his handling of Eddington. He took it way to personal. At the end of the day, Eddington betrayed Starfleet/The Federation, not Sisko. Now as far as Hudson, that was a personal betrayal because Hudson was his friend, shot him, shot at him, and shot officers under Sisko's command.

 

[Saquist]

I agree...This was Avery Hamming it up as we all know he does....

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Hudson had principles and a sense of honor. Eddington was just a jackass with delusions of being a revolutionary. (I doubt that Hudson would have used bioweapons, for example.) There's your difference.

 

[Photon]

Hudson had principles and a sense of honor. Eddington was just a jackass with delusions of being a revolutionary. (I doubt that Hudson would have used bioweapons, for example.) There's your difference.

I totally agree, but the cache that the cute Vulcan got from Quark was mighty impressive

 

[Smellincoffee]

Eddington used his trusted position on the station to undermine Sisko's command. Sisko's outrage is understandable.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I think of this every time somebody mentions Eddington. Remember "Our Man Bashir"? In that episode, he worked as hard as anyone else on the station to get Sisko and crew out of the station computer in which they were trapped (and their bodies out of the holodeck simulation). Given what we would later learn of Eddington, wouldn't he have just let them die? Not just because he was Maquis - and therefore would consider Sisko and crew the enemy, just on the face of it - but Eddington himself was extra nasty in that regard.

 

[Tuvoks_partner]

Eddington used his trusted position on the station to undermine Sisko's command. Sisko's outrage is understandable.

Agreed. However, Sisko let his outrage turn into revenge, as a result, he almost crossed the line of honor you would expect from a Starfleet officer. For example, he poisioned an entire planet just to pursue one man. Also again, Eddington betrayed the Federation ultimately. I just can see how Eddinton's behavior justifies Sisko's reaction, rather, over reaction.

 

[Navaros]

Good point, Photon. In the past, I have likewise made the same identical point as you on this matter.

The Sisko letting Cal off the Hook but going ballistic on Eddington is very inconsistent characterization.

The exact same problem also applies to Sisko not caring that Yates is a Maquis traitors. I wonder if it's due to Eddington being a different race than the Sisko whereas the others are not. In any case, it would have been better for them to write the Sisko character more consistently regarding these issues.

Sisko's outrage is understandable.

If that is so, then Sisko's lack of outrage at Cal and Yates is not understandable.

 

[Elias Vaughn]

Yates and Hudson didn't worm their way into Sisko's life specifically for the purpose of deceiving him and undermining his command.

Hudson and Yates didn't do anything wrong to Sisko personally, but Eddington used him. He struck up a friendship with Sisko solely to play him as a sap. That's why he was pissed at Eddington, not just because he was Maquis.

 

[Saquist]

I saw no meaningful friendship.
It wasn't peresonal.

Sisko made it clear it was about principle. Not to mention Eddington goaded him on a couple occasions.

Seing how easy Riker took the Defiant...that Eddington...(in charge o security) didn't do exactly the same thing is a miss in the series.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The exact same problem also applies to Sisko not caring that Yates is a Maquis traitors.

Kasidy was not an actual member of the Maquis. She only shipped some supplies to them. That difference is relevant.

I wonder if it's due to Eddington being a different race than the Sisko whereas the others are not.

No, that's not it at all. Sisko is not a racist; he didn't hate Eddington for being white.

 

[InklingStar]

A few others here have already answered the question. Hudson was a friend who left Starfleet, leaving Sisko understandably pissed. But it wasn't personal. Eddington was Sisko's chief of security, a trusted senior officer, who used Sisko's trust in him to carry out his betrayal. He used Sisko's connection to Yates to distract him, and used his position of authority on the station to steal the industrial replicators. That made it personal, for Sisko at least.

 

[Tulaberry whine]

I wonder if it's due to Eddington being a different race than the Sisko whereas the others are not.

I know Eddington is from Canada, but he's still human.

 

[Photon]

Good point, Photon. In the past, I have likewise made the same identical point as you on this matter.

The Sisko letting Cal off the Hook but going ballistic on Eddington is very inconsistent characterization.

The exact same problem also applies to Sisko not caring that Yates is a Maquis traitors. I wonder if it's due to Eddington being a different race than the Sisko whereas the others are not. In any case, it would have been better for them to write the Sisko character more consistently regarding these issues.

Sisko's outrage is understandable.

If that is so, then Sisko's lack of outrage at Cal and Yates is not understandable.

Dukat schooled Sisko in that episode. Sisko should have fired on Hudson's ship whilst disabled.

 

[Danny99]

I think of this every time somebody mentions Eddington. Remember "Our Man Bashir"? In that episode, he worked as hard as anyone else on the station to get Sisko and crew out of the station computer in which they were trapped (and their bodies out of the holodeck simulation). Given what we would later learn of Eddington, wouldn't he have just let them die? Not just because he was Maquis - and therefore would consider Sisko and crew the enemy, just on the face of it - but Eddington himself was extra nasty in that regard.

To play devil's advocate, would it have really made sense to let them die. You have plenty of people working on the situation, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

In regards to Eddington not stealing the Defiant like Thomas Riker did, Eddington's job was more so as a mole on DS9. When the net began to close around him, he fled, but at the time, it made no sense for him to run off with the Defiant and bring the might of Starfleet after him.

 

[Kinggodzillak]

I think of this every time somebody mentions Eddington. Remember "Our Man Bashir"? In that episode, he worked as hard as anyone else on the station to get Sisko and crew out of the station computer in which they were trapped (and their bodies out of the holodeck simulation). Given what we would later learn of Eddington, wouldn't he have just let them die?

Um, why? What would there be to gain? Sure, he'd probably end up in command of the station for a bit, but the inconvenience of a massive Starfleet investigation would probably hinder any Maquis plans he had in mind.

Not just because he was Maquis - and therefore would consider Sisko and crew the enemy, just on the face of it -

Like he kept saying - "Our quarrel is with the Cardassians, not the Federation." If his attitude really was that Sisko and co were 'the enemy' then on a Starfleet-run Bajoran space station about 60% of the people he met would have been 'the enemy'. He'd have been a paranoid nutcase in no time...

but Eddington himself was extra nasty in that regard.

But was he though? Remember, it's not just in Our Man Bashir he had chances to kill the rest of the senior staff and chose not to. He had the perfect chance to kill Dax in Rejoined, Kira in For the Cause, or the entire Defiant crew in For the Uniform. But he didn't.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Like he kept saying - "Our quarrel is with the Cardassians, not the Federation."

Yeah, he would say that, wouldn't he? But if the Maquis got what they wanted, war with the Cardassians might well result, and *then* that would certainly be the Federation's problem.

If his attitude really was that Sisko and co were 'the enemy' then on a Starfleet-run Bajoran space station about 60% of the people he met would have been 'the enemy'. He'd have been a paranoid nutcase in no time...

Perhaps he was.

Remember, it's not just in Our Man Bashir he had chances to kill the rest of the senior staff and chose not to. He had the perfect chance to kill Dax in Rejoined, Kira in For the Cause, or the entire Defiant crew in For the Uniform. But he didn't.

Maybe he was just sloppy.

 

[Phily B]

Maybe he liked some of the crew members?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Possible, but unlikely.