Norrin Radd
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I have the POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR......
http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSTRE50T0BN20090130
http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSTRE50T0BN20090130
By the POWER of GRAYSKULL...
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Norrin Radd
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Yeah, I just read that too. WTF...
Are they trying to turn this into Princess of Mars? I mean, that's already being done.
I'm all for a more fantastical take on a live-action He-Man movie. It's something the Dolph Lundgren film lacked. But they have to at least get the basic mythology right.
He-Man is Prince Adam. Prince Adam grew up on Eternia. His mother is from Earth. Also, Skeletor didn't really have a mechanical army. That's more Hordak's thing.
He-Man is Prince Adam. Prince Adam grew up on Eternia. His mother is from Earth. Also, Skeletor didn't really have a mechanical army. That's more Hordak's thing.
Right on
They always muck this stuff up. What's so HARD about SIMPLY translating the 1980's cartoon to live action done RIGHT!
Use CGI only where it makes sense & don't go apeshite with it either.
For the rest, stick to good, efficient, realistic non-CGI special effects.
And make a GOOD FILM. Hire quality writers.
If done right could be sort of a mix of STAR WARS,LOTR, FLASH GORDON, & CONAN.
1980's TFs is called G1. What should 1980's He-Man be called, as it's He-Man's “G1”?
Hollywood rarely respectably translates "legitimate" sources like novels or even actual history. So why do you expect a Saturday morning cartoon from 80s, which was based on a action figure line (not the other way around!!!! LOL!), to be treated any better????
While true, it's not like the mythology of He-Man is all that complicated.
Adam is the Prince of Eternia.
One day he wanders off the Castle Greyskull, and a Sorceress gives him a sword.
The sword gives him the power to turn into He-Man.
He spends the rest of his life playing Superman against Lex "Skeletor" Luthor.
His friends are: Man-at-Arms, Teela, Orco, and the Sorceress.
The end.
You can ignore all the rest (you can even ignore Orco is you really want!). His mother's Earthly origins never have to be mentioned. Hell, there is no reason Earth even needs to exist in this universe. There needs to be no mention of Adora/She-Ra. We don't even need an origin story; the 80s cartoon certainly never gave us one!
Just don't ignore the basics!
You know, I've never understood the grammar behind He-Man's phrase, "By the power of Grayskull, I have the power." Seems redundant, somehow.
Technically those aren't the basics, in the original comics He-Man was a warrior from some village, there was no Prince Adam, no transformation etc., that was all made up by the cartoon when they decided to ditch the original backstory. So I really can't blame Hollywood if they change it again for the movie, why should they respect the basics, if the cartoon didn't do it? For all we know the movie version could be closer to the comics than the cartoon was.
This is the first news of the new film adaption since the review of Marks script on Latino Review last year. Haven't seen Kung Fu Panda yet but hopefully they'll get it right this time. The review that was done last year (I posted a link to it when it came out) seemed like it was a really interesting script.
Norrin Radd
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I must disagree. I mean, technically you're right that's not the first origin. In fact, I remember reading those mini-comics WAY back when.
But I'd argue that to million of fans of the TV show (and subsequent media) the basics of the mythos are different.
It's like if you came out with a Superman movie with him being far less powerful, unable to fly, and his costume being a lot different. Most people just wouldn't buy it. Technically, that's how Superman may have first appeared, but it's just not what he became.
My perspective is that the basics are whatever is commonly held to be true by fans...
As long as Gwildor is in the film, I'm sold.
I never thought of it as a single phrase. "By the power of Grayskull" is the incantation that activates the transformation. "I have the power!" is separate, coming after the transformation and therefore not an integral part of the incantation. It's more of a battle cry or affirmation. Look at it this way: Adam says the first part, summoning the power; then He-Man "arrives" and says the second part, affirming that he does, indeed, have the aforementioned power. So it's kind of a call and response between two people, or two aspects of the same person.
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Well, at one time, I didn't think that Lord of the Rings movies looked good even on paper.
C'mon...how many people thought they would really work?
There is an old adage: nobody knows anything. And that definitely applies to Hollywood.
C'mon...how many people thought they would really work?
There is an old adage: nobody knows anything. And that definitely applies to Hollywood.
But before the cartoon started the basics were the backstory from the comics, but it was thrown out of the window. Filmation ignored the basics back then, so why should a new movie follow the new basics now? They could, but I really don't think they have to.
I think the difference would be that the TV series was familiar to a much larger audience than the mini-comics ever were. So to a whole generation, the essentials of the MOTU mythos are those defined by the Filmation series.
Still, of course, the makers of an adaptation have the right to take the core concept in a new direction if they like. It's happened many times before. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't -- so you can't really say that it's right or wrong as a general rule. As always, it depends on how it's done.
IIRC, Filmation created the series based on Mattel's failed Conan toyline..They had Conan character molds (for the action figures) lying around and didn't know what to do with them. Mattel bought the license to produce Conan toys back when Universal was producing the first film. But director John Millius produced an very violent, R rated movie that was nowhere near kid friendly, and the line bombed. They showed them to Lou Scheimer and asked-or he volunteered, to come up with something for them. So the show came before anything else.
Entertainment Rights, a British media company which bought the Filmation library, in fact owns a piece of the franchise due to Filmation's creation of series. ..The basics were created by them...