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Box Office Guru: "Star Trek should top $250 million domestically"

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"Star Trek" is on fire.

The film only missed 1st place at the domestic box office by a mere five million dollars this weekend and was actually the number one film on Saturday night.


According to "Box Office Guru" ST should top $250 million in the United States and could make much more if it continues to play as well is it currently is playing.

"Star Trek" is already a hit and is threatning to become a first class blockbuster.

Here is the story and the link.
http://www.boxofficeguru.com/weekend.htm


Tom Hanks and director Ron Howard reteamed for their second Robert Langdon adventure and reached number one with an opening that was respectable, but not spectacular. More impressive was the remarkable second weekend hold that the sci-fi actioner enjoyed close behind in the runnerup spot. A mere $5M separated the two films even though has been in theaters a week longer.

Displaying amazing legs in its second weekend was the sci-fi reboot which dropped by only 43% to bank an estimated $43M for a sturdy second place finish. That boosted the cume for the Paramount franchise flick to a stunning $147.6M in only 10.5 days. It was the biggest second weekend haul for any film since last summer's juggernaut which grossed an eye-popping $75.2M in its sophomore session.
Trek's electric word-of-mouth has been spreading allowing the action pic to win new fans, generate repeat business, and keep Imax auditoriums full. In fact on Saturday, it was the number one film in North America edging out Angels & Demons by $500,000 thanks to a healthy 56% Friday-to-Saturday bump compared to just 8% for the Hanks film.
A 43% decline on the second weekend is unusually rare for heavily hyped sci-fi and action films. Trek's performance beat out sophomore drops for such blockbuster franchise tentpoles as The Dark Knight (53%), Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (55%), Quantum of Solace (60%), and Fast & Furious (62%). It was even better than the 48% fall that Iron Man witnessed on its way to a long and durable run during the summer box office last year. The Marvel hero was also released by Paramount with Thursday night previews and its $177.8M cume in the first 10.5 days accounted for 56% of its eventual $318.4M domestic final.
By Tuesday, the Kirk-and-Spock adventure will overtake Wolverine to become the top grossing summer film and will set the standard that all future event films this year will try to live up to. Based on its current course, the crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise should make its way past the $250M mark in North America and could soar much higher if it keeps playing this well.
 
I still feel releases of T-4 & Night At The Museum 2 will stop us reaching $250 but theres no doubt this movie is a hit. Am worried that if we make over $400 million worldwide that Paramount might start getting stupid with the budgets in future and one dodgy movie could spell disaster.
 
The Original crew is by far the most well known


No doubt about that.

I've said for years that the series needed to back to it's iconic characters to bring back the general audience.

Despite some revisionist histroy in the media of late. The Shatner/Nimoy films were major hits. Both "TMP" and "TVH" made well over $200 million at the domestic box office when the box office is adjusted for inflation. That all stopped when ST became a copy of a copy of a copy.

At one time a new "Star Trek" film was a huge deal. After years of being watered down with characters that nobody in the general public even knew existed and burned out writers (nobody can come up w/great new ideas year after year after year)the series finally went back to it's truly iconic characters and a fresh new creative team. Is it any wonder that the new Kirk/Spock film may make a run at a $300 million domestic take?
 
Kirk + Spock = box office
Star Trek 5?

No.

Decent film = box office.


It's really about a decent film. I think the characters of Spock and Kirk are the icing on the cake that brings in another 10 to 20% of the audience if not more. Who am I kidding--a lot more--but it begins with a decent film. (script-editing-directing-acting) It's everything--the music the characters and all that stuff.

I'm not a fan of DS9 and certainly would never get excited to see a DS9 feature film; but if Larry David and David Mamet wrote the script and Spielberg directed I'm sure it would be interesting.



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"No doubt about that.

I've said for years that the series needed to back to it's iconic characters to bring back the general audience.

Despite some revisionist history in the media of late. The Shatner/Nimoy films were major hits. Both "TMP" and "TVH" made well over $200 million at the domestic box office when the box office is adjusted for inflation. That all stopped when ST became a copy of a copy of a copy.

At one time a new "Star Trek" film was a huge deal. After years of being watered down with characters that nobody in the general public even knew existed and burned out writers (nobody can come up w/great new ideas year after year after year)the series finally went back to it's truly iconic characters and a fresh new creative team. Is it any wonder that the new Kirk/Spock film may make a run at a $300 million domestic take?"


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New Trek was a big deal, I remember. I lost interest after Star Trek 5 and somewhere around the time of DS9. As good of a program as TNG was; I believe the watering down began right there with Picard and company. They fractured the fan base in a concrete way as to make it cumbersome and distracting to the average fan to mesh the two groups. Two separate crews and series is probably a strategic and financial mistake to holding a long-term fanchise.

They really squandered the goodwill of the average fan.

I believe if they did this same reboot 10 years ago it would have made even more money.
 
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Kirk + Spock = box office
Star Trek 5?

No.

Decent film = box office.


That was a horrible film and it still made around $100 million when you adjust for inflation.



It's not a coincedence that Paramount went back to Kirk and Spock when the series was at the brink. Surely your not suggesting that any of the spinoffs would be able to create such a hit are you?

They were/are clearly the best chance the series had of getting people back in the theatre.

I submit that if this was not a Kirk/Spock film it would not have generated any where near the buzz this film has. Nor would it be doing the box office this Kirk/Spock film is doing.

The TOS crew is easily the most recognizable/iconic to the general public.
 
Star Trek: The Motion Picture $398million US dollars (UK £264m)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home $257million (£170m)
Star Trek: First Contact $244million (£161m)
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan $237million (£157m)
Star Trek: Generations $206million (£137m)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock $186million (£123m)
Star Trek: Insurrection $180million (£119m)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country $165million (£109m)
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier $127million (£84m)
Star Trek: Nemesis $83million (£55m)


Both First Contact and Star Trek 5 urinate on your theory.

3 and 6 weren't stellar either.

Decent movie = box office.

Shit movie = shit. fail. lose.
 
It's not a coincedence that Paramount went back to Kirk and Spock when the series was at the brink. Surely your not suggesting that any of the spinoffs would be able to create such a hit are you?

They were/are clearly the best chance the series had of getting people back in the theatre.

I submit that if this was not a Kirk/Spock film it would not have generated any where near the buzz this film has. Nor would it be doing the box office this Kirk/Spock film is doing.

The TOS crew is easily the most recognizable/iconic to the general public.

On a more basic level, the only way to reboot the franchise was to use the original crew in these particular circumstances. A new crew would have just felt like an extension of the already watered-down product that we had witnessed with Voyager and Enterprise.

Successful franchises get milked for all they are worth. Profit-making companies generally do not know how to quit while they are ahead, so a formula will be sucked dry until everybody gets tired of it, then later you have to ressurrect it with a fresh perspective.

There was a time when the original crew had gotten old and tired, and TNG was the new blood. The current film is really the franchise's second reboot, and I'm sure there will eventually be another.
 
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