Botany Bay

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Syd Shanshala, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. Syd Shanshala

    Syd Shanshala Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    I'd love to see what an updated "space submarine" DY-100 would look like. Marcus apparently found Botany Bay in the kelvinverse but we never got to see it

    Anyone seen any fan art or anything along these lines?
     
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  2. ArcherNX01

    ArcherNX01 Commander Premium Member

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    There was the IDW Khan comics, I've never read them but I should imagine you see it in those.
     
  3. Khan 2.0

    Khan 2.0 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    it'd have been fun to see at the end of STID stored in the Area 51 warehouse place with all the cryo pods
     
  4. King Daniel Beyond

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    When Scotty found the Vengeance hangar around Jupiter, I thought it'd be inside.

    I wonder if they ever made a CG asset for an unfilled deleted scene, or something.
     
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    Being looked after by some 'top... men' no doubt.
     
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  6. Timo

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    Funnily enough, we've never seen any Trek universe feature noticeably changed when it appears the second time.

    Kirk's ship is exactly the same no matter how often she reappears. When Kirk and Spock and McCoy are recast, it's with maximum visual commonality in mind (although eye color is too much of a hassle, and voices may not be perfect). An artifact from another Trek era looks exactly like other artifacts from that era, regardless of whether it's an actual historical prop unearthed from some basement archive, or an all-new construct.

    I wouldn't expect the Botany Bay to look any different from how she looked in TOS, then. Except in the sense that TOS had her at "low resolution", and TOS-R gave "more resolution", so a bit more detail and texture but zero change in shape or the like.

    Then again, ST:ID does feature the one and only Trek departure from original material committed so far: Khan's crew are in separate sarcophagi, when in TOS they were resting on shelves. Transfer ought not to have been medically possible... And why would Khan have 72 coffins lying around if he already had shelves?

    (But perhaps Khan always was on a shelf, and all the 72 surviving crew were in sarcophagi, while everybody else seen on a shelf in TOS was dead?)

    Timo Saloiniemi
     
  7. gerbil

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    There was talk of a stinger for the 2009 movie featuring the Botany Bay floating through space that was scrapped. I don’t know if any work was ever done to plan for it.
     
  8. DonIago

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    When I saw ID I was admittedly hoping for a flashback where we'd see Marcus finding the BB.
     
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  9. Tenacity

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    Being the Abrams universe, the Botany Bay would be massive, and at least a thousand feet long.

    It's design would be both dark AND edgey.
     
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    The original studio model of the Botany Bay actually had a decent amount of weathering that was obscured due to the compositing techniques for television of the time. Even the color ended up significantly different.

    Kor
     
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  12. King Daniel Beyond

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    Just wait until you see the Discovery version. It spins.
     
  13. Tenacity

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    You mean part of the hull, or the entire ship? Surely not both, that would just be silly.
     
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  14. Timo

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    Naturally both. The ship spins for that logical motion that livens up the visuals, while the containers spin in the opposite direction to negate any centrifugal gravity effect so that we can continue to speculate on the exact date of adoption of artificial gravity plating on Earth spacecraft.

    Timo Saloniemi