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Borg Transwarp

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If Borg ships have transwarp drives why the need for the network of transwarp conduits?
 
A conduit connects two points in space for relatively instantaneous travel.

The Borg while moving at infinite speed through Transwarp space while using their transwarp drives arrive at their destination much slower than instantly because they are "building" conduits" which they are travelling through, which makes their method of travel analogous to digging tunnel or laying train tracks because digging tunnels takes a very long time but after it's finished, it's piss easy to walk through, or imagine if every train had to lay new track when ever they set off on a journey? Isn't it fortunate that all the trains there are can use pre-existing track, how ever new tracks are laid to new locals a they garner the interest in the powers that be.

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The Borg don't have transwarp drives on their ships, the transwarp conduits are how they get around so fast.

The Voth DO have superior transwarp drive though.
 
The Borg don't have transwarp drives on their ships, the transwarp conduits are how they get around so fast.

The Voth DO have superior transwarp drive though.

They do, Borg ships have transwarp coils which Voyager stole and adapted for use on their ship. it cut a lot of distance they had to travel.
 
The Transwarp coil is so they can better use the Transwarp Conduits, not so they can go Full Transwarp on their own. If the Coil was as powerful as the Conduit they'd have gotten home after "Dark Frontier". In conjunction with their own warp drive the Coil can be used as a power-up but not to the level of the Transwarp Conduits themselves.

The Conduits could take them home instantly, the Coil burns out after a while.
 
i assumed that the coil burned out because it wasn't supposed to be used on a ship like voyager in cooperation with federation technology and so a systems conflict grew into a massive fuckup quite quickly.

Like say if your Hybrid was broken and the mechanic was trying to fix it with spare parts from a GTO.

Also Tying to run a diesel engine on petrol.
 
A conduit connects two points in space for relatively instantaneous travel.

The Borg while moving at infinite speed through Transwarp space while using their transwarp drives arrive at their destination much slower than instantly because they are "building" conduits" which they are travelling through, which makes their method of travel analogous to digging tunnel or laying train tracks because digging tunnels takes a very long time but after it's finished, it's piss easy to walk through, or imagine if every train had to lay new track when ever they set off on a journey? Isn't it fortunate that all the trains there are can use pre-existing track, how ever new tracks are laid to new locals a they garner the interest in the powers that be.

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It kind of sounds like Dig Dug. You go faster when you've already dug a tunnel.
 
I assumed the transwarp drive on the Borg ships weren't as fast as nor had the range of the galaxy-spanning conduits.
 
"Transwarp" isn't even a definite term, it's just used to refer to anything stronger than Federation Warp Drive.
 
It's like a river. The Borg can use their transwarp coils to enter the conduit (a tachyon pulse and tri-quantum waves), and then they use the transwarp coil so they can surf along inside the conduit. Similar to having a boat use a motor to leave the dock, and then it gets carried by the current.
 
"Transwarp" isn't even a definite term, it's just used to refer to anything stronger than Federation Warp Drive.

TORRES: I guess I'll go find them myself. Fill him in.
KIM: Neelix, it would take too long to
NEELIX: What are you saying? I'm not smart enough? I'll have you know I did two years as an engineer's assistant aboard a Trabalian freighter. I'm well-versed in warp theory.
PARIS: Okay, okay. We'll tell you. We're trying to break the maximum warp barrier.
KIM: Nothing in the universe can go warp ten. It's a theoretical impossibility. In principle, if you were ever to reach warp ten, you'd be travelling at infinite velocity.
NEELIX: Infinite velocity. Got it. So tha-that means very fast.
PARIS: It means that you would occupy every point in the universe simultaneously. In theory, you could go any place in the wink of an eye. Time and distance would have no meaning.
KIM: If Voyager achieved warp ten, we could be home in as long as it takes to push a button.
NEELIX: Wow! And you're working on this?

When Michael Okuda redesigned Warp for TNG he drew a curve that developed into an asymptote, always approaching but never reaching a theoretical ceiling of "10" no matter how fast you were going.

There is no warp ten.

Even if some tricked out hotrod is impelling at a billion times faster than Voyager could ever achieve under normal conditions, they'd still just be speeding along at Warp 9.999 etc reoccurring to some extremely distant decimal place.

It's the same sort of shit as the energy requirements needed to reach relativistic speeds approaching the speed of light.
 
They also keep changing the warp scale over time, which is why we had "Warp 13" in "All Good Things".
 
That was weird.

I often wonder about Archer's Enterprise?

Is their warp 5 much slower than Kirks warp 5, or was Berman so tired that Archers warp 5 is the same as Janeways Warp 5 and he's just Emperors new Clothesing it?

Then you have to wonder about Captain Styles' "transwarp" drive on the Exscelsior. That didn't really feel like what Kim was describing above.
 
Like I said, "Transwarp" is just a term used to classify anything more powerful than existing Warp Factors.

The Transwarp Drive that the Excelsior was testing may well have been a success and became the standard warp drive used in TNG. Then they classified anything better than that as the new Transwarp.
 
Not better, different.

It's the difference between swimming in quicksand and swimming in water.

They're accessing a different dimensional plane to use as a travel medium.

besides given that you are after you break the warp barrier that you are simultaneously in existing at every point in the universe, that means that everyone using transwarp is the size of the universe,without violating the integrity of the universe or any other universally sized person...

What takes "time" is getting into and navigating and getting out of transwarp space if you're freeballing it, which be a huge amount of wicked math that will eventually once the science is licked by a matter of pushing a couple buttons.

Warp bubbles warp real space that that it reacts extra-dimensionally meanwhile I'm guessing that transwarp conduits (guessing, yes, I'm guessing.) "unwarp" superextradimensional space until it reacts similar to extradimensional space.

Remember all that intergeneration and differentiation you used to do at school to figure out area and, volume?
 
That was weird.

I often wonder about Archer's Enterprise?

Is their warp 5 much slower than Kirks warp 5, or was Berman so tired that Archers warp 5 is the same as Janeways Warp 5 and he's just Emperors new Clothesing it?

Then you have to wonder about Captain Styles' "transwarp" drive on the Exscelsior. That didn't really feel like what Kim was describing above.

Retcon after retcon after retcon, complicated by silliness in Treknical guides that the shows never ever adhered to.

In TOS "That Which Survives" the Enterprise covers 1000 light years in 11.5 hours at warp 8.4. Yet at Voyager's warp 9.975, a 70,000 light year journey supposedly takes 75 years. It should have been 4 weeks!
 
Paradise Syndrome Enterprise visits a planet exactly like Earth in biology on the...(other side of the Galaxy)

I hate to say it but the biggest problem in much of Trek is TOS like someone (can't remember) once said.
 
The navigator was speaking Russian the whole time, and the universal translator technology was still in it's infancy at that point... So between the Russian from the Navigator, the Swahili from the COMS Officer and frakking Vulcan from the XO/Science officer, giving orders and setting course for any necessary local is just a bog of pigeon and Chinese whispers.

Oh, and this is very important to remember: They were all always quite drunk.
 
The navigator was speaking Russian the whole time, and the universal translator technology was still in it's infancy at that point... So between the Russian from the Navigator, the Swahili from the COMS Officer and frakking Vulcan from the XO/Science officer, giving orders and setting course for any necessary local is just a bog of pigeon and Chinese whispers.

Oh, and this is very important to remember: They were all always quite drunk.

Is this a Gardenerism? Or a Gardenerization? Because it doesn't make any sense to me; don't see how it fits with the topic or slight offshoot, even if considered an attempt at humor. :confused:
 
Continuity errors and bad science and bad fake science and inconsistent science between the TV Shows can, if you feel like it, be somewhat explained away with inaccurate translating by the UT.

Or that time that Spock said that they were a million light years away from Federation space, obviously Vulcan "light years" are much much much smaller than human light years but the Universal translator forgot to compensate.

Oh.

And peach schnapps.

Spock just started making numbers up after the third decimal place.

(You've never tried to get directions from someone drunk who doesn't speak the same language as you?)
 
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